cruise should be flammed!!!

[louisiana]

Why is this word even used in bodybuilding!! This is a made up word for people who dont want to ever come off a cycle. Some of the same people who flame people for running the wrong cycles or a newbie for a silly question give advice to someone wanting to cruise. Explain why a person can cruise and never come off but a newbie can run tren on a first cycle. Why someone can cruise but a person shoulnt run a cycle at a higher bodyfat level. Give me an educated reason why this is worth doing.

 

[ishaq]

the difference is the MAJORITY of people who choose to cruise are educated in the use off aas and are able to make there own educated decision, and most are either pro bodybuilders or planning to compete,
the reasons people give advice against a newb running tren for a first cycle is because they DO NOT know the dangers of using a simple aas never mind one of the most powerful substances available, once they take there time to lern and complete simple cycles they can do what the fuck they want the simple reason is this advice is given for the health and BENEFIT of the user so if you wanna do dumb shit then go ahead but if you actually take the time and think 99% fuck it 100% of the info and knowledge given on this board is educated and for the overall health and well being of the user.

 

[C0LUMB0]

Why is this word even used in bodybuilding!! This is a made up word for people who dont want to ever come off a cycle. Some of the same people who flame people for running the wrong cycles or a newbie for a silly question give advice to someone wanting to cruise. Explain why a person can cruise and never come off but a newbie can run tren on a first cycle. Why someone can cruise but a person shoulnt run a cycle at a higher bodyfat level. Give me an educated reason why this is worth doing.

An advanced athlete with extensive experience in AAS usage that decides to try and maintain a serious amount of muscle mass by "staying on "... " cruising " or whatever people want to call it ...can not be compared
to the risk a noob is taking by running tren on a first cycle...
and this applies to advice given in the same regard.

you are comparing apples and oranges my friend.


Further more there is no flamming here of any sort ,just people trying to help other people.

 

[louisiana]

I agree with telling a newbie about the dangers of using tren! I do agree that being educated about a cycle is important. I don't agree about a non professional or even a professional making up a word that allow them to stay on permanent. What example is this sending to a newbie? You can't educate yourself about something that don't exsist!!!!


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[CSB]

Many many different reasons to cruise or why people cruise , cant think one one good reason for a first timer to use tren

 

[ishaq]

yeh in a way i do agree with you bro, but most people on cruising methods are on TRT and are simply on all year round doctor prescribed! but i think when it comes to maintaing large amounts of muscle mass above your genetical potential if you intend to do so then the only real way is to be on year round /:

 

[stevesmi]

these types of threads can blow up very quickly so everyone before you reply to it read rule #6. We treat each and every member with respect on this forum. If you turn out to be more trouble then you are worth. Always fighting,name calling , and acting like a child. We will show you the door.

discuss and debate away!!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Cruising should be called what it is -- continuing a cycle at a lower dosage. That's it. It is not for ANYONE who expects to recover or not be on HRT the rest of their life. Understand and accept that and expect that -- and then do whatever you want.

 

[louisiana]

Cruising should be called what it is -- continuing a cycle at a lower dosage. That's it. It is not for ANYONE who expects to recover or not be on HRT the rest of their life. Understand and accept that and expect that -- and then do whatever you want.

Thanks nelson this is what ive been trying to explain to people. No amature that's not competing should "cruise" on any steroid! It's a made up word, Nothing else.

 

[HAYEZ]

Thanks nelson this is what ive been trying to explain to people. No amature that's not competing should "cruise" on any steroid! It's a made up word, Nothing else.

And who are you to tell people they cannot stay on if they dont compete? and who is anyone to tell anyone else they cannot use tren in there first cycle?

ive been cruising for 4 or 5 years now..do i compete? no..do i ever plan to? no.. so am i banned now from doing what i want because someone on the internet told me i cant cruise? hahaha

aaahhhh now onto the tren...can tren be used in a first cycle? YES...do i know people personally that have? YES...did they die? NO..did they freak out with roid rage and beat up there girlfriends? NO..did they commit suicide because the cycle was just to intense? NO..

what did they do? get big..got cut..completed it with great gains and planned there next one...hahaha

everyone should research and do what they feel is what they want out of cycling..the internet has provided us with obscene amounts of steroid nazis that hate hate hate all day long about cycling ..dont do this dont do that lower ur dose shorten ur cycle blah blah blah im so sick of reading peoples crap i barely come online anymore because of it..

 

[CSB]

what would you suggest it be called then ?

a cruise by definition, is to move along at a constant slow sustained pace , to blast is too

Idiom:
full blast
At full speed, volume, or capacity


and in the end it is just that you blast at full capacity followed by a much slower reduced constant pace, it is not misleading in the slightest imho

nobody i know who cruises is under any illusion of what it entails, including the fact that one will not recover , it is what it is, and any newbie should have the IQ needed and the research to back it up that that is exactly what happens, if he doesnt even know the basics that any form of test or whatever steroid will suppress ones own natural system, and that it is not needed in any individual with a healthy working system has no business taking any form of steroid , never mind tren, he needs to step away from the protein powder because goodness knows what will happen when faced with such decisions such as whey, casien etc

i dont see how competing has any motivation or gives someone a status that says its now ok, just because one does not step on stage in a national or professional manner does not in any way gauge ones passion for this endeavor , most pros unless top 5 or 10 at the olympia struggle financially, so its not let me forgo my health for millions of dollars either. .

the decision to cruise should first and foremost be decided on experience, this includes knowledge of ones body, existing issues such as TRT etc. someone having cycled for decades will undoubtedly have a suppressed system, no matter how much clomid , hcg you throw at it, its again, it is what it is and a by product of our lifestyle. someone with a healthy system, should always follow the cycle on cycle off protocol for as long a possible, this is common sense. i can assure to be on indefinatly and cruising etc is not all its cracked up to be, even though i am destined to pretty much be on permanently due to many many years of cycling and alot ill advised, my natural test is low , even still i come off completely for a few months and suffer the consequences of low test just to detox my system, and not be "amped" all the time.

i am not disagreeing with the fact that it is not for everyone, and for sure should not be encouraged where it is not needed , but to be flamed is excessive , rather educate .

 

[louisiana]

And who are you to tell people they cannot stay on if they dont compete? and who is anyone to tell anyone else they cannot use tren in there first cycle?

ive been cruising for 4 or 5 years now..do i compete? no..do i ever plan to? no.. so am i banned now from doing what i want because someone on the internet told me i cant cruise? hahaha

aaahhhh now onto the tren...can tren be used in a first cycle? YES...do i know people personally that have? YES...did they die? NO..did they freak out with roid rage and beat up there girlfriends? NO..did they commit suicide because the cycle was just to intense? NO..

what did they do? get big..got cut..completed it with great gains and planned there next one...hahaha

everyone should research and do what they feel is what they want out of cycling..the internet has provided us with obscene amounts of steroid nazis that hate hate hate all day long about cycling ..dont do this dont do that lower ur dose shorten ur cycle blah blah blah im so sick of reading peoples crap i barely come online anymore because of it..

Now we are getting somewhere!!! Im a nobody really so i cant flame someone for doing a cruise or anyother cycle they want to do. Im talking about the contradicting info i get here from so called gurus, who cut and past info and think they are Gods here. I dont come here too often no more myself because of some people replies people get about their cycles. No matter how perfect you research and educate yourself on a cycle someone here will tell you to add more or use less. It's funny to me!!! You can cruise, run tren first cycle or use two orals at a time. It's up to that individual, just educate yourself first.