Critique This Cycle Please..........

[supra888]

OK guys i am looking for any comments and advice offered on this bulking cycle .

Cycle .
Weeks 1 – 12 : Test E 500mg…..250mg Mon / Thur
Weeks 1 – 10 : Deca 300mg…..150mg Mon / Thur
Weeks 1 – 4 : Dbol 30mg ED.
Weeks 2 – 18 : Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Weeks 4 – 12 : Hcg 500 I.U. ……250 I.U. Mon / Thur

PCT .
Weeks :15 – 18 Nolvadex ……20mg ED.
Weeks : 15 – 18 Clomid …….50mg ED.
Aromasin …………………….12.5mg EOD
Sustain Alpha.
Toco 8.
Endoamp.
Unleashed.

Support Supplements.
Multi Vitamin…….….Animal PAK.
Liver Support ……….DS LIV-52.
Liver Support………...CEL Cycle Assist
Fish Oil Caps………...Biotest Flameout.
Whey Protein…………ON Gold Standard
Weight Gainer………..Cytosport Cytogainer

Stats.
Age……………….35
Height……………6’0”
Weight…………..190 lbs
B.F………………15%
Training………….3 years
Experience ………2nd cycle.

Diet.
4000 fairly clean calories
40% protein
30% carbs
30% fat

Questions.
Is there a huge difference between using Hcg during cycle as opposed to a larger
Dose at the end of cycle before PCT ?

I Cant find any information as to whether or not Hcg or Aromasin
will hinder gains if be used while on-cycle ( am fairly sure they won’t ) ?

Proscar , I have read conflicting information regarding using finasteride while
running Deca .Should I use it or not ?

Should I bump the Deca dosage upto 400mg( This is my first run with this compound)

When would be the best time to introduce Clen / ECA post cycle , at the same time as I start PCT or when I am finished PCT ? or not at all ?????

Any feedback on the layout of this cycle would be much appreciated fellas.
Thanks in advance.

 

[supra888]

ANY feed back welcome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Help me out here guys

 

[joe d]

it all looks good to me

 

[Nelson Montana]

Quick points.

Deca and dbol is just gyno in waiting.

Instead of small doses of HCG, use HCGenerate and then do a proper dosage of HCG at the end of the cycle

I hate nolva. I hate CLomid.

I'd add POST CYCLE to the PCT. ANd then BRIDGE.

BIG BLAST is better than Cyto sport.

Proscar and DEca is a bad combo.

Clen is not a PCT drug. It's catabolic.

That's my opinion.

 

[joe d]

i should of added my comments where to the cycle/pct plans only. i wouldnt worry about the other stuff right now.

 

[Dial_tone]

Quick points.

Deca and dbol is just gyno in waiting.

Which can be easily controlled with an AI/AE.

I hate nolva. I hate CLomid.

I hate spinach...doesn't mean it can't be effective. Damn sure worked for Popeye.

I like everything but would double the HCG. It's pretty much what I'm doing now minus the Dbol. I don't use orals ever.

 

[supra888]

Quick points.

Deca and dbol is just gyno in waiting.

Instead of small doses of HCG, use HCGenerate and then do a proper dosage of HCG at the end of the cycle

I hate nolva. I hate CLomid.

I'd add POST CYCLE to the PCT. ANd then BRIDGE.

BIG BLAST is better than Cyto sport.

Proscar and DEca is a bad combo.

Clen is not a PCT drug. It's catabolic.

That's my opinion.

Thanks for the input Nelson,

I thought the Aromasin on-cycle would have kept gyno at bay ?.... but i might kick start with Anavar instead at 40mg for the first 6 weeks..

i will keep the proscar for another cycle with no deca in it....

what way would you run the hcg towards the end of cycle....500 I.U. ED for the last 10 days ??

Thanks .

 

[Nelson Montana]

Which can be easily controlled with an AI/AE.




I hate spinach...doesn't mean it can't be effective. Damn sure worked for Popeye.

I like everything but would double the HCG. It's pretty much what I'm doing now minus the Dbol. I don't use orals ever.

Not really. An anti e isn't necessarily effective and causes a host of other problems. And I hate nolva and Clomid because not only is it not effective in some people, the sides are horerndous, There are better options.

 

[supra888]

i should of added my comments where to the cycle/pct plans only. i wouldnt worry about the other stuff right now.

thanks for feedback Joe !

 

[supra888]

Which can be easily controlled with an AI/AE.




I hate spinach...doesn't mean it can't be effective. Damn sure worked for Popeye.

I like everything but would double the HCG. It's pretty much what I'm doing now minus the Dbol. I don't use orals ever.

Thanks for the input Dial-tone....

 

[d baller]

Deca + Proscar = zero libido

 

[supra888]

Deca + Proscar = zero libido

does Deca - Proscar = zero hair ?

 

[supra888]

bump for info on the best way to front load this.....

 

[joe d]

dbol. deca test dbol is classic all time best bulker.

 

[supra888]

Am thinking i should probably run 0.5mg of caber twice weekly.... anybody else agree with this ???

 

[needtogetaas]

OK guys i am looking for any comments and advice offered on this bulking cycle .

Cycle .
Weeks 1 – 12 : Test E 500mg…..250mg Mon / Thur
Weeks 1 – 10 : Deca 300mg…..150mg Mon / Thur
Weeks 1 – 4 : Dbol 30mg ED.
Weeks 2 – 18 : Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Weeks 4 – 12 : Hcg 500 I.U. ……250 I.U. Mon / Thur
kick it up to 500ius twice a week ^^^
PCT .
Weeks :15 – 18 Nolvadex ……20mg ED.
drop this don't need it and its going to cause problems.
Weeks : 15 – 18 Clomid …….50mg ED.
Aromasin …………………….12.5mg EOD
drop this to half the dose. Add in something that will lower progesterons. .5mg dostinex every 3 days along with the aroma will work. Or you can forget both and just run forma-stanzol which takes care of both estrogen and progsterone/prolatin
Sustain Alpha.
Toco 8.
Endoamp.
Unleashed.
rest of the pct looks fine and so does the cycle.
Support Supplements.
Multi Vitamin…….….Animal PAK.
Liver Support ……….DS LIV-52.
Liver Support………...CEL Cycle Assist
you are now taking 2 products for liver support. You only need one. drop the liv-52 yes there is such thing as to much liver support.
Fish Oil Caps………...Biotest Flameout.
Whey Protein…………ON Gold Standard
Weight Gainer………..Cytosport Cytogainer
^^^ lmao and Cytogainer. you fell for the marketing tee hee
Stats.
Age……………….35
Height……………6’0”
Weight…………..190 lbs
B.F………………15%
Training………….3 years
Experience ………2nd cycle.

Diet.
4000 fairly clean calories
40% protein
30% carbs
30% fat

Questions.
Is there a huge difference between using Hcg during cycle as opposed to a larger
Dose at the end of cycle before PCT ?
yes why wait till you are shut down to jump start when you can prevent the shut down in the first place.
I Cant find any information as to whether or not Hcg or Aromasin
will hinder gains if be used while on-cycle ( am fairly sure they won’t ) ?
lowering estrogen will lowers gains. Also it lowers igf and thats also going to lower gains. If you are looking for a on cycle ai that also lowers progesterone and has ether no effect or a posative effect on everything else then you will want to use forma-stanzol ( coming out in 2 weeks) other then that all other on cycles ai's lower gains by one mechanism or another.
Proscar , I have read conflicting information regarding using finasteride while
ya its big time harsh and has fucked some people up for life

running Deca .Should I use it or not ?
no
Should I bump the Deca dosage upto 400mg( This is my first run with this compound)
no
When would be the best time to introduce Clen / ECA post cycle , at the same time as I start PCT or when I am finished PCT ? or not at all ?????
Not at fucking all. Anyone telling you this stuff is good for pct truly should be kicked in the face then pushed off a cliff.

wait and use it in another cycle.
Any feedback on the layout of this cycle would be much appreciated fellas.
Thanks in advance.

No problem thanks for the pm.