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Arabian

Arabian

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I am 6'2 218 pounds now less than 10% bodyfat. My goals are to remain lean however add 10 to 15 pounds of keepable lean muscle. I just completed the following cycle:
Weeks 1-12
Test Cyp and E combined 750mgs per week
1-9 Tren Ace at 125 Eod
1-4 Abombs 50 mg

The Tren has a tendency to lean me out to much and I am looking for a good lean bulker to do , something along the lines of the following, HOWEVER keep the lean look I have without BLOAT.

Week 1-12
Test Cyp 750 per week
Mast 600 per week
1-6
Dbol 50 mgs per day
and
Maybe NPP?

I have never run Mast or NPP before however I have started researching the two and wanted to get some ideas of what you vets think of this cycle for my goals or if there are any other compounds you would run in place of NPP or in addition, to what I have listed. Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Arabian
 
Havent used Mast myself but the tren test cycle should be a doozy. Ive always loved tren, wicked strength gains.
 
Zyglamail said:
Havent used Mast myself but the tren test cycle should be a doozy. Ive always loved tren, wicked strength gains.
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It is a great strength builder however it just leans me out to much. What would you recommend in place of Mast?
 
i prefer the tren / test cycle, but with my recent experience the abombs was not a good idea as it shattered my appetite . i blew up initially on the abombs, but quickly as the tren took hold shed the water , i am now quite thick and vascular and have lost bodyfat but my weight is a bit stuck, and i am having to rethink my calories . my appetite is still shot to hell .

i like the dbol tren test idea personally. i have no experience with masteron so cant give any first hand advice, but would imagine tren , a better addtition in a "bulker" though from what i have read

Edit : i should have read your post better didnt spot you had just completed the tren, in that case i have heard fantastic things about NPP
 
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Arabian said:
I am 6'2 218 pounds now less than 10% bodyfat. My goals are to remain lean however add 10 to 15 pounds of keepable lean muscle. I just completed the following cycle:
Weeks 1-12
Test Cyp and E combined 750mgs per week
1-9 Tren Ace at 125 Eod
1-4 Abombs 50 mg

The Tren has a tendency to lean me out to much and I am looking for a good lean bulker to do , something along the lines of the following, HOWEVER keep the lean look I have without BLOAT.

Week 1-12
Test Cyp 750 per week
Mast 600 per week
1-6
Dbol 50 mgs per day
and
Maybe NPP?

I have never run Mast or NPP before however I have started researching the two and wanted to get some ideas of what you vets think of this cycle for my goals or if there are any other compounds you would run in place of NPP or in addition, to what I have listed. Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Arabian
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I like it...I would switch out the dbol for tbol tho
 
Arabian said:
Thanks GJ, I tried Tbol about a year ago and really did not gain anything off of it. Have you ever run the Mast? How did it react with you and your gains? Thanks , pal
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havn't ran mast yet but iv'e heard it stacks very well with npp which would make your cycle ideal for lean gains. Just not a big fan of dbol, i ran it at 50mg a day for 4 weeks in the transformation contest and it bloated me up like crazy and the back pumps with insane by the 3rd week.....How did you dose the tbol when you ran it? You should be able to dose it a little higher than dbol and run it a little longer
 
I love mast bro. It really gives you that "on" feeling, and deals exceptionally well with test related bloat. Its really more anabolic than it seems on paper. Since you're already lean, it will give you insane vascularity and a paper thin feeling to your skin, not to mention aggressive pumps. Can't say about NPP, I never tried it. I' m curious though, have you thought about kickstarting with Beast instead of dbol?
 
FT10 said:
I love mast bro. It really gives you that "on" feeling, and deals exceptionally well with test related bloat. Its really more anabolic than it seems on paper. Since you're already lean, it will give you insane vascularity and a paper thin feeling to your skin, not to mention aggressive pumps. Can't say about NPP, I never tried it. I' m curious though, have you thought about kickstarting with Beast instead of dbol?
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That sounds great, I was also thinking of Primo? What is your thought on that as well? Ive tried Beastdrol the over the counter supplement and the only thing that it did was give me severe indigestion.
 
Arabian said:
That sounds great, I was also thinking of Primo? What is your thought on that as well? Ive tried Beastdrol the over the counter supplement and the only thing that it did was give me severe indigestion.
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not what I wanted to hear when I'm gonna use beast to kick my next cycle lol



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Arabian said:
Use Dbol, much better.
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not a fan of dbol, I was looking more for dry lean gains and I already have beast on hand I picked up 2 bottles when they had the bogo on it a while back. I used the first bottle during a cut so gains were minimal but def noticed an increase in strength
 
gymjunkie09 said:
not a fan of dbol, I was looking more for dry lean gains and I already have beast on hand I picked up 2 bottles when they had the bogo on it a while back. I used the first bottle during a cut so gains were minimal but def noticed an increase in strength
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Great, let me know how it turns out GJ?
 
Beastdrol is a great product bro..how did u run it to get no results?
 
FT10 said:
I love mast bro. It really gives you that "on" feeling, and deals exceptionally well with test related bloat. Its really more anabolic than it seems on paper. Since you're already lean, it will give you insane vascularity and a paper thin feeling to your skin, not to mention aggressive pumps. Can't say about NPP, I never tried it. I' m curious though, have you thought about kickstarting with Beast instead of dbol?
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Mast & NNP will go together like cake & ice cream
 
gymjunkie09 said:
not what I wanted to hear when I'm gonna use beast to kick my next cycle lol



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its very rare this happens, i remember when arabian posted a thread about it because i had the same problem. i did alot of searching over the internet and only found 1 other guy who had this problem with otc type supps but it was with helladrol. so you should be good.
 
Also not a fan of dbol... bloat was ridiculous... not the kind of "gain" I'd want.

I personally like Tbol... I don't think you noted your dosage. Anything less than 75mg, would likely not yield anything impressive, but it makes a nice kick-start.

Anavar is great for the lean gains you're looking for.

I'm a fan of (good) NPP... didn't get the awful sides I got from Deca... got strong, no bloat.

If you can run the cycle longer than 12 weeks, go for the primo, but use over 400mg/week (600mg is perfect).

Masteron is ok to add with whatever... if you're lean, it will just make you harder and vascular and just amplify the results of the other AAS.
 
Arabian said:
I am 6'2 218 pounds now less than 10% bodyfat. My goals are to remain lean however add 10 to 15 pounds of keepable lean muscle. I just completed the following cycle:
Weeks 1-12
Test Cyp and E combined 750mgs per week
1-9 Tren Ace at 125 Eod
1-4 Abombs 50 mg

The Tren has a tendency to lean me out to much and I am looking for a good lean bulker to do , something along the lines of the following, HOWEVER keep the lean look I have without BLOAT.

Week 1-12
Test Cyp 750 per week
Mast 600 per week
1-6
Dbol 50 mgs per day
and
Maybe NPP?

I have never run Mast or NPP before however I have started researching the two and wanted to get some ideas of what you vets think of this cycle for my goals or if there are any other compounds you would run in place of NPP or in addition, to what I have listed. Thanks in advance for the assistance.

Arabian
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Masteron is good stuff! Run the mast the whole cycle. I like it a lot. I would drop the dbol to 30mg a day. I'm 5'10 and 218 and 30mg/day was a lot for me. NPP would be a nice addition. Have you thought about eq?
 
anybody have any thoughts on 1 test cyp? I know its fairly new and not that many have ran it but have heard good things about strength size and hardening effects!
 
sharkmaster said:
anybody have any thoughts on 1 test cyp? I know its fairly new and not that many have ran it but have heard good things about strength size and hardening effects!
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"1"-t cyp is great if you already lean. Very comparable to primo. I've found 800mgs/week to be the best I like to pine mwf.

Arabian do the npp and mast bro you won't be disappointed especially if you've never ran them. Just run your npp dose above 500mg that's when you'll start seeing growth any less and is just good for joints. Mast will keep u dry, vascular and horny as shit! Good luck bro
 
chesty said:
Masteron is good stuff! Run the mast the whole cycle. I like it a lot. I would drop the dbol to 30mg a day. I'm 5'10 and 218 and 30mg/day was a lot for me. NPP would be a nice addition. Have you thought about eq?
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Thanks Chesty, so you think the Mast is better than Primo for lean gains?
 
perico13 said:
"1"-t cyp is great if you already lean. Very comparable to primo. I've found 800mgs/week to be the best I like to pine mwf.

Arabian do the npp and mast bro you won't be disappointed especially if you've never ran them. Just run your npp dose above 500mg that's when you'll start seeing growth any less and is just good for joints. Mast will keep u dry, vascular and horny as shit! Good luck bro
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That sounds great, thanks perico.
 
Primo is your friend , slow lean gains bro....easier to keep.
I would consider beast or tbol for starters.

primo @ 400mg would be sweet .

Nice results off your previous run buddy - well done.
 
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