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critique my possible 5x5 split

MattRecc

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im thinking of using the 5x5 in a month or 2, and was wondering if this training split would be ok (as well as the exercises)

Monday-
Chest- incline barbell press 5x5
Incline Flyes 2x8-10
dips 2x8-10

Bi's-
barbell curls 5x5
hammer curls 2x8-10
incline dumbell curls- 2x8-10
i might cut out everything but

Tuesday-
Legs- squats 5x5
leg exentions- 2x8-10

stiff leg deads 5x5

calve raises 5x15

Wednesday-rest

Thurs-
back- deads 5x5
chins 2x8-10
one arm dumbell rows- 2x8-10

Friday-
Shoulders
push presses-5x5
side laterals- 2x8-10

Triceps
cg bench 5x5
rope pulldowns 2x8-10

sat&sun off
 
sorry misposted the bis, what i wanted to say is it seems like my bi's grow with very low volume, so i might just keep the barbell curls instead of doing any of the iso exercises
 
Looks very good to me, similar to what I did until I had to switch to a three-day.

You might add something on shoulder day for your rear delts and/or traps. Looks good other than that.
 
I would love that workout......Hell, you should be out of the gym in 20 minutes max.....just couldnt handle that aspect.........
 
If you switched Thurs and Fri, it would be the same split I am doing. I would recommend doing that, so you can give your back and legs another day to rest (what with you doing squats and deads and all).
 
I am a big fan of the pushpress but I don't see a point unless you compete. What I mean is yuo will use some leg drive to take out the bottom portion of the lift which is moslty delts anyways. You are trying to hit delt why avoid them??? Try Strict ohp5x5, facepull 2x10 then pushpress 2x8-10/ or latera; raises.

Should have one more excercise with tris cause they are a primary mover in so many excercises and can take a lot of abuse.
 
i agree that i should prob do seated militaries, its just hard letting go of push presses, i love the feeling of being able to hoist all that fuckin weight over my head, but i think you are def right, time to focus more on a stricter movement
 
Lord_Suston said:
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Try Strict ohp5x5, facepull 2x10 then pushpress 2x8-10/ or latera; raises.

Excellent advice. (Not to divert the topic, guys and gals, but Suston'd make a good mod too, y'know...)

I realize they're fluff, and I'm not doing them at the moment--my routine calls solely for compound stuff--but I definitely think the laterals have their place...in my experience, most guys have predominantly slow-twitch fibers in their medial delts, so they seem to benefit from very high reps, upwards of 15 or even 20/set.

You might try that, Matt...after 5x5 OHP and 2x10 face pulls, 1-2 sets of 15-20 rep laterals would cover all the bases for you.

Let's see...what else...

Biceps:

I agree with you. The 5x5 BB curl alone should do the trick...I'd say start with that, and if you can tolerate it really well, take it from there w/ some hammer curls.

Everything else looks pretty doggone good to me, really. From Zero's gotta point about switching Thurs. and Fri. (shit...ANOTHER good potential mod).

Thighs:

You might do leg presses in lieu of the extensions, but squats, leg presses, AND SLDL all on one day might be pushing it. Your choice there.

Calves:

I'd recommend that, instead of doing one calf raise for 5 sets, split your sets up; do 2 sets of standing or donkey calf raises, then do something for the soleus, like 2 sets of seated raises.
That "only" adds up to 4 sets, but what the hell: 2 different exercises, each 2x15, all to failure, should CREAM your calves.

Triceps:

Again, I concur with Suston. 5x5 close-grip is about the best thing you can do, but a third exercise would probably not hurt. I hear Doggcrappers RAVE about reverse-grips in the Smith with slow negatives. I've yet to try them but you could play around with that third exercise and see what you like.

Pecs:

I might do the dips before any kind of fly--maybe. That's a nitpick; I simply think dips are such a good movement that I'd like to tackle them whilst as fresh as possible.

(Slight aside: those who like fascial stretching might like the idea of doing a hard stretch exercise, like the fly, after you've got an immense pump. Doing bench AND dips before the fly would assure you a mega-pump, I imagine ;) .)

Different split:

I'd consider doing triceps after back...your back routine's pretty fucking hard, but tris would still be fresh. They wouldn't be very fresh after a 5x5 military, let alone push presses however...

Several of those suggestions could go either way. Consider it food for thought :)
 
that's very similar to my 5x5. i do the program over three days though.

Wth regard to your push press, why not just make it a standing press ie without pushing from the legs.

I do standing press and it has worked wonders for my shoulders/delts. They feel more natural to me than seated militaries.
 
damn, you didn't get shrugs in there, just do 4x8-10 on chest day, real easy and not too taxing, Goldukat has some great points.
 
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