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Critique my HST routine

SoSadBtTrue

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Hey everyone, long time no post. Anyways, it's time for me to change routines, and I've decided to do a couple cycles of HST. I just want you to let me know what you think of my exercise selections. I will be lifting Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. 1 set of each exercise. 2 weeks of 15's, 2 weeks of 10's, 2 weeks of 5's.

Flat Press
Incline Press
Military Press
Upright Rows
Bent Over Rows
Face Pulls
Lat Pulldowns
Squats
Calf Raises
Shrugs
Deads
Leg Curls
Straight Bar Curl
Close Grip Bench
Incline Situps

I will most likely be doing them in that order as well...unless I discover that I don't like it and switch a few around.

Thanks in advance for your input.
 
SoSadBtTrue said:
Hey everyone, long time no post.

No kidding! I remember you, though! :D How's it going?

Anyways, it's time for me to change routines, and I've decided to do a couple cycles of HST. I just want you to let me know what you think of my exercise selections. I will be lifting Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. 1 set of each exercise. 2 weeks of 15's, 2 weeks of 10's, 2 weeks of 5's.

Understood.

Flat Press
Incline Press
Military Press
Upright Rows
Bent Over Rows
Face Pulls
Lat Pulldowns
Squats
Calf Raises
Shrugs
Deads
Leg Curls
Straight Bar Curl
Close Grip Bench
Incline Situps

I will most likely be doing them in that order as well...unless I discover that I don't like it and switch a few around.

Thanks in advance for your input.

The selection looks damn good, but there are a few redundant movements in there. IIRC, you're quite strong, so doing inclines, flat, close-grip and military might be asking too much of your delts and tris.

Also, this is just me talking, but I feel squats and deads 3x week with progressive resistance is probably a bit much. I'm also firmly of the opinion that shrugs are a poor man's deadlift, and are thus another redundant movement you could just as easily drop.

Beyond that, if you decide to keep everything as is, I'd just suggest you pair up antagonists; e.g., do a set of flat bench, then bent over rows, following up with incline before pulldowns, etc.

Oh! And I wouldn't do upright rows before anything involving the upper back.

I think that covers it for now :)
 
guldukat said:
No kidding! I remember you, though! :D How's it going?

Glad you remember me. :) It's been going well. Thanks for the input.

guldukat said:
The selection looks damn good, but there are a few redundant movements in there. IIRC, you're quite strong, so doing inclines, flat, close-grip and military might be asking too much of your delts and tris.

What's IIRC?

You're probably right...so which would you suggest dropping? I'd probably say flat bench. I want to keep the direct tricep work in there with the close grips. But then again...my chest is probably my weakest area. Do you think incline alone would be enough for it? Who knows, maybe I've been doing too much volume in the past and that was my problem.

Oh yeah...I've done squats and deads together in the past, and haven't really had a problem. Actually, I had considered doing stiffies instead of leg curls, but thought that might be overkill.

Thanks again.
 
SoSadBtTrue said:
Glad you remember me. :) It's been going well. Thanks for the input.

My pleasure!

What's IIRC?

You're probably right...so which would you suggest dropping? I'd probably say flat bench. I want to keep the direct tricep work in there with the close grips. But then again...my chest is probably my weakest area. Do you think incline alone would be enough for it? Who knows, maybe I've been doing too much volume in the past and that was my problem.

Hmm...well...maybe it won't be too much, after all. You might try keeping bench, incline, militaries and close-grips, and see how it goes. If it does prove to be too much over time, you can always change that! :)

Oh, and IIRC is "if I remember (or recall) correctly." I've spent too much time on geekier boards, see ;) LOL.

Oh yeah...I've done squats and deads together in the past, and haven't really had a problem. Actually, I had considered doing stiffies instead of leg curls, but thought that might be overkill.

Thanks again.

Absolutely.

How about drop leg curls and reg. deads for just squats and stiffies? That might not be a high enough order of work for the thighs, though with the high reps and increasing poundages I'm not sure. I used to do sessions that consisted solely of squats and SLDL, only two hard sets apiece, that would leave me on the floor afterwards :)
 
no offense guldukat but I dont think you understand how hst works http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_notes.html here is a link to read up a bit

SoBad- all the exercises look good but I would switch it up like this
Squats
Leg Press
Deads
Leg Curls
Bent Over Rows
Face Pulls
Lat Pulldowns
Flat Press
Incline Press
Military Press
Upright Rows
Calf Raises
Shrugs
Straight Bar Curl
Close Grip Bench
Incline Situps

do the hardest lifts first so you can give them your all, Im about to try my first cycle of hst ,Im rather excited
 
Guldukat hasn't really said anything to lead us to believe he doesn't know how it works.

SSBT, your selection looks fine, but I would suggest against squats and deads. Do one or the other. I'd suggest squats, coupled with SLDLs. Either those or good morning. I'd do incline bench presses and dips for the chest and maybe an extra exercise for the tricep.
 
TheOak01 said:
no offense guldukat but I dont think you understand how hst works *snip* here is a link to read up a bit

Wha? How did you determine that?

The only thing I'd probably take offense to is that you say I don't understand HST works, yet you don't tell me how you came to that conclusion.

That's no big deal, but assuming I am actually wrong here, show me how by offering proof for your claim. I'm always eager to learn and all, but to do that, I need to know where I messed up first. Like the leaky pipe I fixed earlier today, I had to identify the problem (find the leak itself) before I could correct it. :supercool
 
casualbb said:
You've got a whole ton of exercises there. Unless you're on it seems a bit excessive.

My thinking as well..I have never actually done HST though to be honest....but my workouts are fairly frequent so I think I have a good handle on a natty's recovery ability....
 
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