actually bro, i was in sams club a couple of months ago, and i saw a twin lab supplement called creatine nitrate fuel. i laughed in my head when i saw it, then i looked at the price and it was 18dollars, i thought to my self damn i've spent 60 dollars on shit before, so i bought 3 jugs of this stuff. So i took a dose in the morning and a dose post workout, and let me tell u, this shit works better then any other creatine supp i ever took, and i've tried them all. It worked so good that after 3weeks of use, i cut back on a serving and only take it post workout. I have been using it for like 4months now, and i love it. LOL