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im familiar with creatine. I used it a lot in high school and my lifts shot up. I guess what im saying is the strength gains some get from the energy creatine supplies..Do they lose it after they got off of creatine?
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In response to your original question, yes and no.
The water weight you gain you will lose, but the net weight gained AFTER loading will be kept.
For instance, you weigh
180. After loading you weigh
185 (+5 water lbs). Then you bulk up to
195 (+5 water, +10 tissue lbs). You go off creatine, and normalize to
190 (+10 tissue lbs.)
creatine is definitely underrated, esp. considering how cheap it is.
The water weight you gain you will lose, but the net weight gained AFTER loading will be kept.
For instance, you weigh
180. After loading you weigh
185 (+5 water lbs). Then you bulk up to
195 (+5 water, +10 tissue lbs). You go off creatine, and normalize to
190 (+10 tissue lbs.)
creatine is definitely underrated, esp. considering how cheap it is.
True, true...
Coincidentally, that study was discussed on the HST site. Bryan Haycock (HST founder), who I assume has seen the full text, claimed that after an initial fat-free mass weight gain, the fat free mass gain actually accelerated through the rest of the study. That would seem to support either increases protein synthesis or decreased protein catabolism.
Coincidentally, that study was discussed on the HST site. Bryan Haycock (HST founder), who I assume has seen the full text, claimed that after an initial fat-free mass weight gain, the fat free mass gain actually accelerated through the rest of the study. That would seem to support either increases protein synthesis or decreased protein catabolism.
pwr_machine
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"Typically, the strength gains stick around while the associated water weight is lost. "muscledog95 said:
pwr_machine
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Vandenberghe K (1997) have determined that on cessation of creatine intake, muscle PCr in females returned to normal within 4 weeks.spatts said:
From personal experiences with a lifter, I know that the strength gains are most likely not lost.
Backlash
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Hmm, I never seemed to get much benefit, but then again I never really was too serious about lifting until recently. Maybe I'll try it after my vacation this week since it sounds pretty good from what you guys are saying.
2 questions:
1. From that study, it seems that you only have to load (20 g a day) for 2 days rather than the standard 5? Is that right?
2. Is the pill form as good as the powder? It is much easier to take, especially during loading when I'd have to take it twice at work.
2 questions:
1. From that study, it seems that you only have to load (20 g a day) for 2 days rather than the standard 5? Is that right?
2. Is the pill form as good as the powder? It is much easier to take, especially during loading when I'd have to take it twice at work.
pwr_machine
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In response to your 2 questions....1) I have seen studies that have shown that the loading phase is not necessary. 2) I'm sure if you do a search, you'll find more information. I prefer the premixed powders since they include both creatine and sugar that is VERY important to Cr ingestion.
pwr_machine
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I'll elaborate...
Terjung RL et al (2001), reported in the American College of Sports Medicine's journal, Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, that high dose loading phase of 20 g x d(-1) that is common to many research studies is NOT necessary.
In my opinion, it's a waste of money to consume the loading phase recommendations.
Terjung RL et al (2001), reported in the American College of Sports Medicine's journal, Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, that high dose loading phase of 20 g x d(-1) that is common to many research studies is NOT necessary.
In my opinion, it's a waste of money to consume the loading phase recommendations.
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So a proper cycle would be 5 g a day for 1 month, followed by a month off? And it is important to take it with some sort of juice or something with simple sugars rather than mixing it in water? Some of those premixes seem sketchy to me...
