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Could some create a mutual fund primer thread please?

RottenWillow

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I know only a very little bit about them and would like to find out more. I've got 1700 in Roth right now and will have another 2500 in my checking to move into some form of investment in Sept.

I did a quick look and didnt see any threads that looked like an introduction to mutual funds in this forum. Could some knowlegeble person put together a primer for the ignorant please?
 
Buying a mutual fund is a lot like going in on a group gift or joining a co-op—with people you'll never meet. Mutual funds allow a group of investors to combine their cash and invest it. By pooling their money together, mutual fund investors can sample a broader range of stocks or bonds than they could if they were trying to buy the stocks and bonds on their own.

Many people think of mutual funds as "products." But when you buy a mutual fund, you're actually buying an ownership stake in a corporation that in turn hires a money manager to invest its money. The price of a single ownership stake in a fund is called its net asset value, or NAV. Invest $1,000 in a fund with an NAV of $118.74, for example, and you will get 8.42 shares. ($1,000 ¸$118.74 = 8.42.)

The fund manager combines your money with that of other investors. Taken altogether, those investments are called the fund's assets. The fund manager invests the fund's assets, typically by buying stocks, bonds, or a combination of the two. (Some funds buy more complicated security types.) These stocks or bonds are often referred to as a fund's "holdings," and all of a fund's holdings together are its "portfolio." A fund’s type depends on the kinds of securities it holds. For example, a stock fund invests in stocks, while a small-company stock fund focuses on the stocks of small companies. What you get as an investor or shareholder is a portion of that portfolio. Regardless of how much or how little you invest, your shares are the portfolio in miniature.

For example, Vanguard 500 Index's VFINX three largest holdings are General Electric GE (3.0% of its portfolio as of Dec. 31, 2003), Microsoft MSFT (2.88% ), and ExxonMobil XOM (2.62%). A $1,000 investment in that fund means that you own about $30 of General Electric, $28.80 of Microsoft, and $26.20 of ExxonMobil. In fact, you own all 500 stocks in the fund’s portfolio.

Mutual funds offer some notable benefits to investors.

1. They don't demand large up-front investments.
If you had just $1,000 to invest, it would be difficult for you to assemble a varied basket of stocks or bonds on your own. For example, with $1,000, you could buy one share of stock from the largest U.S. company, then one from the next largest, and so on, but it’s likely that you’d run out of money sometime before purchasing your 20th stock.

If you bought a mutual fund, though, you would be able to sample many more types of stocks or bonds with that same $1,000. You can make an initial investment in several funds with just $1,000 in hand; $2,500 will get you into many more funds. If you invest through an Individual Retirement Account, you can often get your foot in the door with even less than $1,000. You can even buy some funds for as little as $50 per month if you agree to invest a certain dollar amount each month. (We’ll cover different investment methods in an upcoming lesson.)

2. They're easy to buy and sell.
Whether you’re buying funds on your own or hiring a broker or financial planner to do it for you, funds are easy to buy. Once a fund company has your money, it often takes just a phone call or mouse click to buy shares in a fund. Of course, there are exceptions: Closed funds, for example, no longer accept money from new shareholders.

By the same token, it's also easy to sell a fund. Unlike many other security types, such as individual stocks, you don’t need to find a buyer when it's time to unload your shares. Instead, the vast majority of mutual funds offer daily redemptions, meaning that the fund company will give you cash whenever you're ready to sell. Investors who own closed funds can also sell at any time.

3. They're regulated.
Mutual fund managers can't take your money and head for some remote island somewhere. Security exists through regulation set by the Investment Company Act of 1940. After the stock-market madness of the two decades prior to 1940, which revealed some big investors' tendencies to take advantage of small investors (to put it nicely), the government stepped in to put safeguards in place for investors.

Thanks to the Investment Company Act of 1940 (often called "the '40 Act"), your mutual fund is a regulated investment company (regulated by the Securities & Exchange Commission) and you, as a mutual fund investor, are an owner of that company. As with other types of companies, mutual funds have boards of directors that represent the fund’s shareholders. Among other duties, the board is charged with ensuring that the best available managers are running the fund and that shareholders aren’t overpaying for the managers' services. For example, the board of directors at Fidelity Magellan FMAGX has hired Fidelity to run the fund on behalf of shareholders.

The fact that mutual funds are regulated shouldn’t give investors a false sense of security, however. Mutual funds are not insured or guaranteed. You can lose money in a mutual fund, because a fund's value is based on the value of all of its portfolio holdings. If the holdings lose value, so will the fund. The odds that you will lose all of your money in a mutual fund are very slim, though—all of the stocks or bonds in the portfolio would have to go belly up for that to happen. And history suggests that such a mass implosion is unlikely in the vast majority of fund types.

4. They're professionally managed.
If you plan to buy individual stocks and bonds, you need to know how to read a company's cash-flow statement or assess the likelihood that a given company will fail to meet its debt obligations. Such in-depth financial knowledge is not required to invest in a mutual fund, however. While mutual fund investors should have a basic understanding of how the stock and bond markets work, you pay your fund managers to select individual securities for you.

Still, mutual funds are not fairy-tale investments. As you will learn in later sessions, some funds are expensive and others perform poorly. But overall, mutual funds are good investments for those who don’t have the money, time, or interest necessary to compile a collection of securities on their own.


**source: Morningstar.com "Investing Classroom"
 
Ok a question for you fellas or anyone else. Vanguard seems to be huge. Is that a good bet to find a fund that meets my needs? I want two things, someplace to put my money to grow for retirement, and something shortterm that makes money for me now, like for a house downpayment in a few years.
 
Vanguard is a good company, and so is Fidelity...both have high-quality, low-fee funds...Of course, there are other good companies out there, but those two are very widely known for their quality of mutual funds and fund managers.

To let your money grow for retirement, you would be very well-off with a Vanguard total market index fund (cant remember the exact name for the thing, but there is a very well-known one by Vanguard).

As for something that makes money for you now, that all depends on your risk-tolerance. Being young (I can see that youre young from your picture), you should have a higher tolerance for risk than those who are up in age. If you are fairly risk-tolerant (like me, and I am in my mid-20s), you could go with a more aggressive mutual fund (but one that will naturally bring more risk) such as: Fidelity Contrafund or Fidelity Capital Appreciation fund. Both have top-of the line management, low fees, and no loads.


hope this helps, hun.

RottenWillow said:
Ok a question for you fellas or anyone else. Vanguard seems to be huge. Is that a good bet to find a fund that meets my needs? I want two things, someplace to put my money to grow for retirement, and something shortterm that makes money for me now, like for a house downpayment in a few years.
 
Dev and Flex, thanks for the help getting started. I plan to get kneedeep in that Vanguard site and come back with specific questions before I actually buy into anything.

thanks again. :):)
 
at first glance, I would have to tell you to stay away from REITS right now...I believe that real estate is in a bubble and that it is bound to pop at any time....when it does, it will have possibly the same effect as the tech bust in the early 2000's...The fact that many people are recommending REITs right now, is a bearish sign, IMO...

some people (myself included) believe that the fact that everybody and their mother is making huge money buying and selling real estate is, in fact, a bearish sign.

in fact, I was recently thinking about shorting REITS (or betting that the real estate will slide into a bear market.)

but as always, these are only my opinions...
 
Do NOT put any your money you are saving for a home into ANY mutual fund if you are saving for a house down payment within the next 5 years, ABSOLUTELY not. That is way way too short of a time horizon and you risk significant capital depreciation even if the fund pays high dividends.

For your retirement funds; however, Vanguard is great.

Vanguard is great in that they have the lowest expense fees in the industry. You need to learn about active vs. passive management, along with loads and fees. I'll write more when I get in to work.
 
the reason I mention the Vanguard REIT fund and a house down payment in the same post is that its 9 year perf is 14 1/2 %, and its on track to do about 17 this year. To us (my fiance and I) that seemed like the best place we could put it for the next 4 years or so.
 
RottenWillow said:
the reason I mention the Vanguard REIT fund and a house down payment in the same post is that its 9 year perf is 14 1/2 %, and its on track to do about 17 this year. To us (my fiance and I) that seemed like the best place we could put it for the next 4 years or so.

rottenwillow, I do see where you could come to that conclusion.

But if you could judge returns like that we'd all be millionaires. Past performance is not an indicator of future events.

I'm in the real estate industry. Throughout the course of history, real estate has gone through boom and bust cycles. In the early 1980's we had a situation much like today, everyone was happy, everyone wanted to be in real estate, people were making fortunes, banks were lending money to build projects with negative cash flows, it was wonderful.

Then the government changed a tax law that had to do with depreciating the asset.... well nevermind that. Those wonderful returns sank, firms were going bankrupt everywhere, etc. etc... Values plummeted for YEARS. Things didn't start picking back up again until the mid 90's, and here we are again.

Nothing, no sector ever returns 14.5% and pays a 5% dividend as the REIT fund has, forever. That will never happen in any sector or any fund. Only a few investors in history have every achieved that performance for 20+ years, Warren Buffett, Peter Lynch, and a handful of others. Not a REIT Index fund.

That being said, I do hold that fund. But I would not be surprised if it were to lose 30% of it's value next year, or not increase in price at all for 5 years from today. But I'm planning on holding it forever. Just... forever. We will go through 3 more boom and bust cycles before I die so... it's ok.

For something as important as your home, invest your down payment in something like CD's or Triple A rated bonds. You will only earn 4-5%, but believe me, I know you are feisty, but investing in real estate at this stage of the game is flat out playing with fire.
 
you should have bought a REIT 5 yrs ago, not right now for the next 5 yrs, for the reasons bran just gave. a money market or cd at your local bank is definately 100% safe, but i'm not sure you could find a 5% cd or mm anywhere (i could be wrong as i haven't checked in a few months). however i still think an index fund will outpace the 5% annual average over the next 5 yrs you are looking to save. but these are decisions you must ultimately make with your husband/fiance and what your risk tolerance will be. remember, things might be great in the market the next 5 yrs but a week before you withdraw your funds, what happens if there is another terrorist attack and you lose half your money that week? it's a risk that could very well happen. you won't be facing that risk with a bank account, but you suffer shitty returns on your capital the 5 yrs it's in there
 
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