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Could Arnold=Ronnie
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I think he might have been awesome if he were using the same drugs we have today and at the same amounts. Arnold beat out his opponents at his height then, I think he would still fair very well. None of the older bodybuilders were freaky huge like today's guys because they didn't have the drugs or the drug knowledge...
If arnold were able to walk on stage today in his Olympia shape of the 80's he would get crushed by the competition. He was no where near as dense and hard as todays pros not to mention he didnt carry half of that freaky mass. Now dont get me wrong Arnold is by far my FAVORITE bodybuilder, but do you think he had the genetics to look like todays pros. He was pretty damn tall i think he was listed at 6'2" 235 when he competed. Do you think if he had todays knowledge and arsenal of drugs, creatine, clomid, var, winny etc and used the higher doses we hear of today that he could carry that kind of mass and symmetry.
Come on its late lets hear some opinions!!!
Come on its late lets hear some opinions!!!
Big Anaconda
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IMO Arnold looks way better than Ronnie, ok hes not as big but he looked real, god-like. Ronnie looks too freaky, it looks plastic. If i had the choice id much rather look like Arnie, thats what body building should be, he was Herculean.
Nutrient-Nut
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It all comes down to the most important thing, that is one's genetics underneath the drug enhanced muscles. Arnold simply had the best genetics of any bodybuilder that I've ever seen. You saw the pictures of him when he was about 12. Hell, he had a beautiful body back then. His genetics are much better than Colemans.
Now, if he was competing today at an equal age of the pros, he would be doing everything that everyone else does in regard to drugs and he would probably look like some kind of a fictional comic book muscle bound freak. Too bad we'll never know what he would have looked like nowadays! I imagine it would have been quite the site!
Now, if he was competing today at an equal age of the pros, he would be doing everything that everyone else does in regard to drugs and he would probably look like some kind of a fictional comic book muscle bound freak. Too bad we'll never know what he would have looked like nowadays! I imagine it would have been quite the site!
Stillgoing
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Arnold > Ronnie
naturally anabolic
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Given a level playing field of age, and drugs. Arnold would win, there is no question in my mind.
VicTusDeuS
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Im sure ronnie prides himself on the fact that he is bigger than arnold...the judging should be more than whos the biggest.
in today's standards arnold would have looked something like gunter
it s hard now days to carry mr olympia mass and density being over 6 feet . back then the thin athletic and muscular look was more appealing to the judges proof of that the first freakiest BB mike mentzer didn t win in 1980.
it s hard now days to carry mr olympia mass and density being over 6 feet . back then the thin athletic and muscular look was more appealing to the judges proof of that the first freakiest BB mike mentzer didn t win in 1980.
arnold
was awesome, but "the myth" was something else to.
Not many would dare pull off his arm over the head pose.
I dont know what is wrong today. I seen a picture of ronnie at 300+ pounds and he was in the bf% condition that the old pros of the 70's looked like they competed at. That mean being 2 inches shorter than arnold with aboud 70lbs more muscle.
THATS INSANE!!! He looked like a shaved gorilla.
was awesome, but "the myth" was something else to.
Not many would dare pull off his arm over the head pose.
I dont know what is wrong today. I seen a picture of ronnie at 300+ pounds and he was in the bf% condition that the old pros of the 70's looked like they competed at. That mean being 2 inches shorter than arnold with aboud 70lbs more muscle.
THATS INSANE!!! He looked like a shaved gorilla.
Competitive bodybuilding is about genetics and drugs. Do you think that Arnold trained harder than Larry Scott or Ronnie trains harder than Dareem Charles?
It isn't like a real sport. Could Babe Ruth hit Pedro Martinez? Probably not at first. But after a while his talent would rise to the occasion.
Thank god all the drugs weren't available back then. Back then, the physiques were inspiring. Today, anyone who thinks pros look good only aspire to get a hold of more drugs. Had Ronnie competed in 1970 he would be crushed by Arnold --and about 10 other guys.
It isn't like a real sport. Could Babe Ruth hit Pedro Martinez? Probably not at first. But after a while his talent would rise to the occasion.
Thank god all the drugs weren't available back then. Back then, the physiques were inspiring. Today, anyone who thinks pros look good only aspire to get a hold of more drugs. Had Ronnie competed in 1970 he would be crushed by Arnold --and about 10 other guys.
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orian , Arnold , Ronnie , Sergio . And yeah Twitched , Ronnie is a freak , but his overall look has been heading downhill for years bro . His bloated stomach ruins the awesome lines he had .
XBiker
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Dorian, all the way...
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Dorian, all the way...
MoreBeefPlease
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arnolds day it was art. today not so much, it is more about pushing the body's limits.
arnold=legend
ronnie=GH belly
bodybuilding is like what a sculptor does to a sculpture except in bodybuilding it is much harder because we have to do it on the human body. -Pumping Iron
arnold=legend
ronnie=GH belly
bodybuilding is like what a sculptor does to a sculpture except in bodybuilding it is much harder because we have to do it on the human body. -Pumping Iron
Those make pics make we wonder if today's athletes are really more cut than arnold or nubret at their best. On the back pick, arnold has a beautiful christmas tree, coleman no
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Lift Chief
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I totally agree that back when arnold was competing it was about making the human body look its absolute best... in pumping iron he talks about the proportions of his body- he didnt increase the size of a muscle unless he needed to in order to even out his physique... he probably could have been even bigger than he was.
now a days it is about pushing the limits of what is humanly possible. Both pursuits are admirable it is just a personal choice which one you respect more...
now a days it is about pushing the limits of what is humanly possible. Both pursuits are admirable it is just a personal choice which one you respect more...
DownUnder23
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Paulos said:
i;m right with you brotha ...someone ask ronnie how he got his calves to look so good! cough....synthol
As far as genetics go... arnold all the way, but its so hard to determine who's physique would of been better considering the amount of drugs that are currently used in todays bodybuilding compared to the past. Although, I believe arnold would look just as plastic and just as bloated as all the current bodybuilders if he was competing now. Regardless, arnold is still my favorite.
I just used ronnie as a base for all the FREAKS out there now. Do you think arnie could look as freaky as Levrone, priest, Gunter, Dorian? He had mass but no where near what they carry today plus his legs were twigs compared to many of todays pros. He had some great thigh separation and one hell of a taper, but I just dont see his 6'2" frame carrying 300 plus lbs.
02gixxersix
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arnold had the perfect physique. he was well proportioned and not freakish looking. i dont think anyone will ever compare.
I dont think Coleman is better than some of the recent bodybuilders...Yates was a champ for 6 years while Coleman was a pro and Coleman was never even a threat to Yates for those many years!
Haney was better than Coleman..I also go with Gunther, Levrone and Cutler over Coleman recently too.
Haney was better than Coleman..I also go with Gunther, Levrone and Cutler over Coleman recently too.
Arnold by far, with todays drugs he'd be 280 riped. Hows this for funny Ronnie said that he thought he beat Jay hands down in 2001 because he has better symetry. Yet when Kevin clearly beat Ronnie in the 2002 Mr O, Ronnie said he derseved to win hands down because he's way bigger than Kevin. Last time I checked 10lbs isn't way bigger, Ronnie needs to wake up.
SeekerOfKnowledge
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Arnold would still kick his butt today if he decided to try and return to bodybuilding because he made it more of an art show not a freak show. It was a marvel at the perfection one could attain in the physique of the body, not look at my big, big muscles, they are bigger then yours.
Intenceman
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Reverse the question- how Coleman or for that matter many of today's pros would have done 20-30 years ago WITHOUT the massive amounts of drugs they do. Arnold would win safely.
arnold is an apple and ronnie is an orange.
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