correlation between DB press and bar bench

[BigRugbyMan]

Is there any correlation between the amount of weight you do dumbell incline press with and what you can do on the incline press with the barbell.. Or even flat db and flat bench...


I use 110lbs db inclines... And can barely do 275lbs for 6 on incline... That doesnt seem right...

feel free to list your DB presses and corresponding barbell presses

 

[muscleup]

wELL i GUESS THATS SEEMS ABOUT RIGHT YOUR ALWAYS GONNA BE ABLE TO LIFT MORE ON BARBELL THAN DUMBELL,I REP 90-1OO'S INCLINE DB AND ON BARBELL INCLINE ABOUT195-225 DEPENDING ON HOW I FEEL BUT THE AMOUNT OF WHEIGHT DON'T MEAN SHIT UNLESS YOU ARE A POWERLIFTER,oH AND THOSE ARE TRUE LIFTS NOT SOME OF THIS I WEIGH 175LBS AND BENCH 315 FOR 10 REPS BULLSHIT YOU HERE ON HERE, THE MAY SUCK BUT THERE TRUE.

p.s. sorry for the caps

 

[BigRugbyMan]

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[BiggerisBetter]

i've been wondering the same thing
on flat bench db i can do 115s for 6 reps and on flat bench 325 for 4
on incline i do 105s for 5 reps and incline bench 270 for 4 reps
guess it all depends on the form though

 

[BigRugbyMan]

true true

 

[malhavoc]

Everyone is different, but I remember reading a while ago that a difference of around 20% is a good rule of thumb (barbell being greater then the dumbbell by 20%).

 

[genarr3]

Sounds about right bro. I've maxed out for a single 315 on incline and don't do real heavy weight on the dumbs( prefer not to have someone help me get them up) but I'll do 100's for 12 easy with short breaks inbetween sets.
Genarr3

 

[JOKER47]

genarr3

So, since you don't like to have help getting the heavier DB's up, do you mostly use them for warmups, then move to BB for reps? I ask because I am starting to run into the same thing. Pain in the ass to get the DB's up to the starting position.

Thanks,
Joker

 

[Your_Moms_Kneepads]

Is there any correlation between the amount of weight you do dumbell incline press with and what you can do on the incline press with the barbell.. Or even flat db and flat bench...


I use 110lbs db inclines... And can barely do 275lbs for 6 on incline... That doesnt seem right...

feel free to list your DB presses and corresponding barbell presses

I never tried more than 315 on a barbell flat bench or incline but have done 150's on both an incline bench and also on a 65cm swiss ball for sets of 5-6. I just can't use a bar,I suck at it and dont care if I get any good at it-especially with a bad R. shoulder.

 

[BigRugbyMan]

yeah i suck at barbell too... SO i really dont even bother with it anymore

 

[kingc_79]

damn i really feel weak now. lol. i'm only gettin 100's for 5 and like 245 on in bb. i suck at bars.

 

[carrera]

So since were on the subject of DB vs. BB , if a guy were to have a great deal of shoulder pain on barbell press (flat or incline) would he be loosing alot of power just doing bumbbells

I'm getting realy sick of this fucking shoulder pain , and I don't realy have a reason to bench 500lbs so what would I loose or gain by doing dumbbells ??

 

[genarr3]

JOKER47
I generally do inclines after flat barbell, so I'm somewhat fatigued. I don't like jerking up the heavy dumbbells because I worry about injuring my wrists. So when I do the lighter dumbs I take little rest (1 min or less between sets) go slow and concentrate on my form to get the work in.

carrera
Unless you're concerned about your personal high in the bench I wouldn't worry about only doing dumbbells for chest. At the end of the day I really don't think it will make much of a difference in your physic(sp?). If anything the dumbbells will work more muscle( stabilizers ) the barbell might give a little more size, but if you're getting pain I'd stay away from the barbell, it'll only get worse.
Genarr3

 

[carrera]

thanks for the tip bro , I might just use the Barbell for higher reps as they don't hurt as bad as the heavy does

I'm basicaly looking to get a better build and some size

 

[tricepula]

The amount you can do on dumbbells depends on how long you've done them for and how much you've built up those muscles! I can do 120's eight times on my fifth set of db flat, but my 1RM on bench is only 300. I see lots of people who can do more than me on bench, but not come close on db's, because they don't work out with them often. Try 4 to 6 weeks of all db workouts then 4 to 6 weeks of bar. Watch everything go way up. Then alternate the two! Good luck!