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D-Shots
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My best friend is/was a cop....they do ask about illegal drug use before the lie detector test. Better to fess up then try to lie.
Not sure what drugs they tested him for though...
Not sure what drugs they tested him for though...
Fajitas
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I had to take one administered by a cop who does them for the police applicants. Thay ask about all past recreational drug use and aas use. They ask how much and when was the last time. Based on my answers to his questions he stated that he would have not been able to recommend me as a candidate for the academy. Luckily I wasn't applying for the academy, I had to take one because I am going into the medical field and have a misdemeanor weed possession on my record.
Lee
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Funny, I once signed up for the army but never went, and through the process, the recruited asked me if I had every done any illegal drugs. I said "yes", because i had done a few different drugs, and he handed me a home drug test and said "when you can pass this, come back and ill get you through the system." he was probably so much in a hurry to get me through since i scored within the top 10% on my asvab.
Fajitas
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I was able to dodge the AAS question by stating that I did take prohormones before the ban. So basically I said yes I took a supplement at the time was not illegal but currently is. That may help..... I believe there are ways to get through the lie detector test. One of the first questions they will ask you is if you have done any research to try and fake the results.
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D-Shots
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I wouldn't go in with the intent of "beating the system"...the key to those things is how honest you are.
caravan
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There is no such thing as a lie detector test. The effectiveness of the test is in it's ability to gain a confession by making the person in question confess to a crime because he/she believes that the retarded thing actually works. Interviewing Officer says after initial probe/questioning" Um, sir were finding some inconsistencies in your statement about your past drug use, is there anything else you'd likie to tell us" You say , "No Sir". The machine is nothing more than a very expensive bluff. The only somewhat effective "lie detector test" is kineseology, in which an individual's body language is pathologically analyzed while being asked questions. Effective for someone not used to being interviewed/interrogated, but for someone who knows the game it's an easy thing to pass as well. Monotone voice, and limited body movements for them all is my advice. Think of your chick naked when ever your asked a question. LOL
By the way, I'm a former other governemnt agency contractor {Iraq} who had to take a poly for a clearance. It's a joke.....
By the way, I'm a former other governemnt agency contractor {Iraq} who had to take a poly for a clearance. It's a joke.....
mlong23
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I wouldn't admit to it. I applied last summer, and the question was have you done AS within the last 7 years. So I said yes, and they told me they were not interested, never even made it to the polygraph. I asked the recruiter, and he said they are looking at it pretty seriously. Its funny because all other drugs were 3 years, except for AS, coke and heroin type of shit. Its so fucked up how AS gets grouped with that type of drug.
Once you make it in, I don't think they really care. There are a few cops that I know that buy from a guy I know.
Once you make it in, I don't think they really care. There are a few cops that I know that buy from a guy I know.
DieselGunz
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No they do not trust for AAS, UNLESS that have reason to believe you are doing them
Some acadamys are go there go home, SOME are all week. I would NOT bring your gear to the acadamy, just run a long ester and shoot once a week.
Some acadamys are go there go home, SOME are all week. I would NOT bring your gear to the acadamy, just run a long ester and shoot once a week.
athlete.03
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It's quite possible to beat a polygraph (without drugs or tacs) but you need to be formally trained or an extreme sociopath to do so.
Don't risk it.
Don't risk it.
jagerbombme
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i know people who passed it and bullshitted about alotta shit. just answer like your talking to your mom. don't admit shit
dsh89
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Yeah I had to take a polygraph, but i am a horrible liar, so I was simply lucky that I had a cool tester. They formulate the questions. Can only be "yes" or "no" answers. If you can lie well you can pass because the test looks for physiological responses, such as increased heart rate, sweat production, body movement, it cannot read your mind.
solidspine
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Go off your cycle before your test and don’t even think about gear when you are at training.
They are looking for recreational drugs. You are taking gear as a supplement not a recreational drug.
So if some one asked me, you are not taking “drugs” per say, but meds or supplements. It is semantics, with the purpose of improving your physical condition and health.
Never the less the lie detector test will catch any misstatement, and will simply make you look like your are on smack or meth.
Go off the gear and answer the questions, directly, best bet. Again you are taking gear not recreational drugs.
They are looking for recreational drugs. You are taking gear as a supplement not a recreational drug.
So if some one asked me, you are not taking “drugs” per say, but meds or supplements. It is semantics, with the purpose of improving your physical condition and health.
Never the less the lie detector test will catch any misstatement, and will simply make you look like your are on smack or meth.
Go off the gear and answer the questions, directly, best bet. Again you are taking gear not recreational drugs.
milo hobgoblin
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More importantly...
why would you want to be a cop if you're already breaking the law??? Isnt it your job to UPHOLD the law?
and you wonder why so many people fucking hate cops...
how bout you just dont do shit that you would fuck other people for doing?
If you're one of those rare cops who knows how fucked up steroid laws are and wouldnt bust someone for em.. more power to you.. but you know you're 1 in a million.
to the rest of you glorified revenue collectors... a big fuck you.
why would you want to be a cop if you're already breaking the law??? Isnt it your job to UPHOLD the law?
and you wonder why so many people fucking hate cops...
how bout you just dont do shit that you would fuck other people for doing?
If you're one of those rare cops who knows how fucked up steroid laws are and wouldnt bust someone for em.. more power to you.. but you know you're 1 in a million.
to the rest of you glorified revenue collectors... a big fuck you.
Bruce
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i have passed them before. it is so simple. i guess it depends on what type of person you are. my father is a big dick attorney and lying in my house took absolute perfection. i agree with the statement its all a big scam. people get nervous when you start strapping things to them and testing them. its human nature. so if you are off a bit on some answers they can question further but its not definitive. they won't test ya for aas from the get go but other drugs. there was a great article about cops on steroids in esquire or some shit. the cop talked about how every cop should do one cycle a year and that he was able to throw and take down some of the biggest guys because of aas. maybe maxim, someone had to have read it as well. so there are guys doing it just be smart
rykertest
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a creed said:
it's not a sure out but it does hurt your chances. They will ask you KNOWING you have done something wrong in your past, everyone has. Just be honest because guys will tell you that the system can be beat, it's not possible for your average joe and will backfire 9.5 times out of 10. Now if you tell them you stopped using gear 3 months ago, then yeah, you are most likely out.
Recently the test has changed to where they typically ask you if you have done any illegal drugs in the past 6 months, 12 months, 36 months, something like that. If so, then what types of drugs and they will go further down that road.
indy69camaro said:
Wrong! I had a fellow cop friend that was tested recently.. They do and they can. Just like they do randoms for everything else.. coke, pot, etc..
instant.muscle
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wtf does a thumbtack in ur shoe do? lol
a creed
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One more question (and thanks to ALL of you for you answers)
I'm not worried about being "tested" for AAS
I'm just worried about the Lie detector - does "every" police department use one before admission?
I was asked personally by the Chief of Police (the Autobody Shop where i work fixes all the towns cruisers and I fixed his wife's BMW the other day - I'm new there)
He asked if i've ever considered being a Cop, and I said "sure I have" - and he said "cause I Love to have a guy of your size on my force"
He set up an interview this Monday with me just to fill me in on everything and he told me he wanted to get me over to the Academy ASAP.
Do chiefs have "pull" when it comes to the "results" of my polygraph?
Even if my ansewrs aren't typical, - if he REALLY wanted me, would he let it slide?
I'm not worried about being "tested" for AAS
I'm just worried about the Lie detector - does "every" police department use one before admission?
I was asked personally by the Chief of Police (the Autobody Shop where i work fixes all the towns cruisers and I fixed his wife's BMW the other day - I'm new there)
He asked if i've ever considered being a Cop, and I said "sure I have" - and he said "cause I Love to have a guy of your size on my force"
He set up an interview this Monday with me just to fill me in on everything and he told me he wanted to get me over to the Academy ASAP.
Do chiefs have "pull" when it comes to the "results" of my polygraph?
Even if my ansewrs aren't typical, - if he REALLY wanted me, would he let it slide?
anabolic12
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The ways to pass these are easy, and yes, they are a bit of bullshit, but they do work on people that don’t handle direct pressure. Meaning, in your face type questions. They are not looking for anything other than your heart rate. Sure they are looking at the way you answer the question (defensive manner & such), but 99.9% of the test is monitoring your heart rate. If you ever heard of an inconclusive test, that was an individual who went in to the test with a high heart rate (nervous, scared, had something to hide) 99 % of the time these guys will become inconclusive after the first 3 questions. However, they will carry the test forward to continue looking for inconsistencies other than heart rate.
So with all that being said, I know for a fact that if you can increase your heart rate and keep it up, then you will either pass the test or be inconclusive. Inconclusive in my state doesn’t prohibit you from entering.
It really not hard to do at all... If you are bored on day, sit there still and think of things that would normally increases your hrt rate.. Notice that you can increase your rate, by just thinking of things.
If you do this when they make sure when they ask you your name.. you will be fine..
So with all that being said, I know for a fact that if you can increase your heart rate and keep it up, then you will either pass the test or be inconclusive. Inconclusive in my state doesn’t prohibit you from entering.
It really not hard to do at all... If you are bored on day, sit there still and think of things that would normally increases your hrt rate.. Notice that you can increase your rate, by just thinking of things.
If you do this when they make sure when they ask you your name.. you will be fine..
littleb
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a creed said:
I did not even read all the responses, as i can answer this personally from a "friend" lol Do not say you did steroids, auto dq in almost every state, just think of it this way, its not a rec. drug, its cosmetic.. really trust me on this admit and you done, unless last time was 5+ years ago, but even then slim chance.... lets just say I have not been on in a while, still juice and how long is academy? home on weekends
i have a friend that administers the polygragh tests for our city and sheriff's dept and he does ask about all illegal drugs in the pre-interview. if someone has done stuff in the past but not currently he will ask the polygragh questions accordingly. just be off and stay off until the poly test, and they are quite effective depending on the examiner.
now i have another buddy who is on the narcotics squad for the sheriff's office and he powerlifts and is heavy on gear..
now i have another buddy who is on the narcotics squad for the sheriff's office and he powerlifts and is heavy on gear..
Dude, Cops don't do AAS, just ask Ronnie Coleman....
1st timer
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First off, there are several different lie detector tests...depending on the agency (state/fed/local) will depend on how much emphasis is placed on the question...best chance local. The test is a guide for the background investigation - show them where to invenstigate deeply.
As far as the academy...don't even dream of taking them! Get caught and you're facing more than expulsion.
AAS tests are expensive and not part of a normal battery of tests, so if they have reason to suspect you, it's possible they'll test but unlikely.
Good luck, I hope all turns out well for you.
As far as the academy...don't even dream of taking them! Get caught and you're facing more than expulsion.
AAS tests are expensive and not part of a normal battery of tests, so if they have reason to suspect you, it's possible they'll test but unlikely.
Good luck, I hope all turns out well for you.
indy69camaro said:
Listen, I just spoke with my cop friend a few days ago.. His partner was tested for steroid use. He came back negative.. There was no suspicion, and plus his partner doesnt even work out. I know they cost more than than normal 7 panel. Who do you think pays for those tests? Taxpayers..
lotta people here who find it very easy to beat lie detectors. i mean, i'm sure the government would use something so easy to beat. i mean, how hard is it to control your sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system reactions right? i mean, controlling breathing rate and volume, sweat glands, eye/pupil dilation, etc. real easy if you ask me.
sounds like a major bunch of bullshitters here.
sounds like a major bunch of bullshitters here.
caravan
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timtim said:
Sounds like your someone that would fail the test......You actually believe it works.............Get it? It's just a mind game to get you to fess up to things that you've done in the past. It does not detect lies. And yes our government would use something easy to pass. Look at all of the crooks in office......and in the PD's. But you can believe what you want. I'm speaking from experience that it's a joke.
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely".
"admit nothing, deny everything, if all else fails blame someone else"
Aint this country grand:]
i dont believe the machine detects lies but rather detects the physical response characteristics of a lie. but everyone here who has probably never been arrested, never questioned by cops, and never put through a lie detector make it sound like its a walk in the park.
its sort of like the controlled delivery topic. everyone is like, "i'd say i want my lawyer and not say a word" and "fuck the pigs". but when 25 cops are ripping your place apart, you are handcuffed, and one cop is explaining what will happen the outcome of a real controlled delivery is completely different than the way the posts make them sound. i feel the same way about this. not everyone here is just "equipped" to beat these tests, beyond what their minds may tell them. reality is a different universe.
CO B-man
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http://www.police-test.net/clickbankpolygraph.htm
Knowledge is power! there are many things out there to teach you to beat the test. If it is something they can find out i.e. documented somewhere you are screwed. The last three years are the most crucial to them what you did in those but not necessarily just that much time. Make sure those who know you do not rat you out thats where they will get you. They will ask your friends for friends and them for friends, family for friends etc until they pretty much talked to everyone you know good and bad. They really enjoy talking to your enemies and ex-girlfriends wives etc you know the ones that might want to rat you out. They will do a pretty thorough background check but cops are not saints. They have the best pot! lol!!
Knowledge is power! there are many things out there to teach you to beat the test. If it is something they can find out i.e. documented somewhere you are screwed. The last three years are the most crucial to them what you did in those but not necessarily just that much time. Make sure those who know you do not rat you out thats where they will get you. They will ask your friends for friends and them for friends, family for friends etc until they pretty much talked to everyone you know good and bad. They really enjoy talking to your enemies and ex-girlfriends wives etc you know the ones that might want to rat you out. They will do a pretty thorough background check but cops are not saints. They have the best pot! lol!!
CO B-man
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a creed said:
Learn what they are testing for heart rate, blood pressure, breathing pattern blah blah blah and learn how to manipulate them i.e the bp can be manipulated by squeezing your sphinkter muscle its true but not to much or they can tell. Remember they ask target questions up front thats when you manipulate and then relax when you lie. Try to lie about as little as possible. I used to want to be a cop I have family that are cops but realized I was the black sheep and probably would not have been a very good one. I liked drinking too much, Drinking and driving, marijuana, LSD, shrooms all that just a little too much oh and now sterroids. But good luck to you.
You will not be the first cop that ever lied and made it through should you be successful.
