convert HRT to descent cons cycle

[Cobra1]

Hey fellows,
My buddy who just picked up some stuff is looking for the best way to cycle what cha recommend?

The clinic has him front loading the winny. It seems to me its best at the end.
They have him doing a lot of HCG and amidex and clomid during cycle.
Karma for all help


1 10cc bottle 100 mg stano/test
30 winny tabs 50 mg
20 arimidex .5 mg
10000 iu HCG
2 tubes stano/test gel (120 gms)
50 clomid

thx guys. I just dont recognise the gel or the weird winny/test combo bottle

What can any of you do with this

 

[st8grad]

I don't think a cycle of that is possible. I guess.....

Start with with the stano/test at .5cc ed....that will last 20 days then.....

1/2 tab winstrol ed for 40 days with 20 tabs left over
6grams of gel per day for 40days is 6grams per day at 1%absorption for a total t dose of 60mg per day....420mg per week. I'm guessing on the amount of test in there and you don't say how much stanozolol. If it is 50% each then we need to change this a little.

Run the HCG 250iu monday/thursday throughout.
No arimidex unless needed...can be used at .25 to stretch it out.

Run the clomid for PCT.

That's a 60 day cycle. That's the best I could think of....assuming my math it correct on the gel. I'm also assuming that the stano/test injectable is 100/100 so that would be 50mg stan/50mg test suspension ed.

"The Clinic" doesn't sound too good.

Hey fellows,
My buddy who just picked up some stuff is looking for the best way to cycle what cha recommend?

The clinic has him front loading the Winstrol - stanozolol. It seems to me its best at the end.
They have him doing a lot of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and amidex and clomid during cycle.
Karma for all help


1 10cc bottle 100 mg stano/test
30 Winstrol - stanozolol tabs 50 mg
20 arimidex .5 mg
10000 iu HCG
2 tubes stano/test gel (120 gms)
50 clomid

thx guys. I just dont recognise the gel or the weird Winstrol - stanozolol/test combo bottle

What can any of you do with this

 

[Cobra1]

Thanks
thats about what I had as well
Actually the clinic isnt bad but my buddy didnt want too much and he let the guy at the clinic tell him what he wanted.
For me it was super. I get test deca and winny but my total test is also 350

anyone else

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'm really suspect of those clinics. They tend to be using the HR T thing as a front to sell gear at a huge profit. Winn, H CG, dex, and testgel and clomid are all legal with prescription so that's what they'll promote.

If your friend wanted to be 100% legal, he's be better off getting a legit script for test and buying dex and HC G from a life extension site. It would be a lot cheaper.

 

[Cobra1]

Nelson I agree
I dont like HCG every week during cycle. Its only needed at the end in my opinion. But they have him doing it throughout in my opinion because they can! Not because its whats best.
He also was anti needle so that swayed the options.
He is his mid 30s and has just lost about 35 lbs. Down from 270 to 235
He wanted to bulk up a little but not noticeable Roid gains and he just went tooo conservative.

Maybe the question is how do we take these substances and giv him a high normal HRT dose based around the gel???? Maybe a better question in the Hrt board but its here now so help me out!!!!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson I agree
I dont like HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - every week during cycle. Its only needed at the end in my opinion. But they have him doing it throughout in my opinion because they can! Not because its whats best.
He also was anti needle so that swayed the options.
He is his mid 30s and has just lost about 35 lbs. Down from 270 to 235
He wanted to bulk up a little but not noticeable Roid gains and he just went tooo conservative.

Maybe the question is how do we take these substances and giv him a high normal HRT dose based around the gel???? Maybe a better question in the Hrt board but its here now so help me out!!!!

Why not just get a legit sc ript for HRT? 100mgs of T a week. He can keep the other stuff for an occasional boost. (I use a little HC G every other month). For HRT purposes, 1/4 mg of dex twice a week is enough. I'd recommend some natty anti e along with it. If he wants to try and go off once in a while, he can use the Clomid, OR use it only when using the HC G (one of the few times I think it may be worthwhile).

Winn has no place in HRT. He can use that if he wants to do a mini cycle within the HR T.

 

[Cobra1]

I did try to get him to use a base injectable wekly but he wussed out and is using the stano/test gel instead. Now within his limitations I am just tryin to make what he has the best 4 him.

I do my base test at 200mg a week and its workin pretty well for me.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Hey fellows,
My buddy who just picked up some stuff is looking for the best way to cycle what cha recommend?

The clinic has him front loading the Winstrol - stanozolol. It seems to me its best at the end.
They have him doing a lot of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and amidex and clomid during cycle.
Karma for all help


1 10cc bottle 100 mg stano/test
30 Winstrol - stanozolol tabs 50 mg
20 arimidex .5 mg
10000 iu HCG
2 tubes stano/test gel (120 gms)
50 clomid

thx guys. I just dont recognise the gel or the weird Winstrol - stanozolol/test combo bottle

What can any of you do with this

The hCG on cycle is a great idea. Run this at 250iu twice a week like ‘st8grad’ advised.

This sounds like a 30 day cycle to me. Id run it like this -

Shoot 1 cc of the stano/test E3D
Apply 4gm stano/test gel ED
Use half a tab of arimidex EOD
Take 1 50mg stanozolol tab ED
Shoot 250iu hCG E4D only during the cycle.
Throw the clomid away.

-Pp

 

[Big_Joe]

The HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - on cycle is a great idea. Run this at 250iu twice a week like ‘st8grad’ advised.

This sounds like a 30 day cycle to me. Id run it like this -

Shoot 1 cc of the stano/test E3D
Apply 4gm stano/test gel ED
Use half a tab of arimidex EOD
Take 1 50mg stanozolol tab ED
Shoot 250iu hCG E4D only during the cycle.
Throw the clomid away.

-Pp

I agree with you about the Hcg during cycle. I think when one runs Hcg they should try to mimic the pituitary gland. The pituitary gland pluses Luteinizing hormone every day, mostly in the morning. So the use of Hcg should be everyday. Dosing at 500iu per day has shown to keep test levels slightly higher then base line. Also I have read a study, sorry I don't remember where, that ran Hcg at 500 iu per day for six months and there was no sign of Leydig cell desensitization.

When I use Hcg I run 500 iu per day. I think this keeps my boys big and strong. Maybe even a little bigger then when I started AAS.

 

[Primordial Performance]

I agree with you about the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - during cycle. I think when one runs Hcg they should try to mimic the pituitary gland. The pituitary gland pluses Luteinizing hormone every day, mostly in the morning. So the use of Hcg should be everyday. Dosing at 500iu per day has shown to keep test levels slightly higher then base line. Also I have read a study, sorry I don't remember where, that ran Hcg at 500 iu per day for six months and there was no sign of Leydig cell desensitization.

When I use Hcg I run 500 iu per day. I think this keeps my boys big and strong. Maybe even a little bigger then when I started anabolic androgenic steroids.

Bigjoe,

500iu ED is pushing the testes way beyond their natural production capacity. In fact 250iu EOD is still pushing the testes past their natural production limit. If you wanted to shoot everyday, 100iu ED will best dose to mimic the natural LH release. Still, you can never truly mimic the hourly LH pulse with hCG as its half life is considerably longer than your bodies natural LH. (1-2 hrs with LH compared to ~3 days with hCG)

Ive seen virtually every peer-reviewed hCG study to date so I can say with just about 100% certainty that a "500iu hCG ED non-desensitizing" study does not exist. Trust me, if it did, Id have this study memorized and on file.

If you can find this study Ill provide you a life supply of Dermacrine. ;-)

-Pp