Controlling your cholesterol during a cycle.....everybody should follow this

[syd black]

I hope its as good as it sounds, the price is right thats for sure.

 

[DJ_UFO]

This post is amazing!!....finally some proven advice for all of us regarding cholesterol levels...Thanks a lot bro!!
Karma for you!!...

 

[bicepts101]

yeah fonz deserves karma on this one but i just gave him some the other day so i gotta spread it around

 

[E23]

Fonz, what about triglycerides?

What can I use to lower them?

 

[DrJMW]

Fonz,

Great article and info. Here is my major concern. While you decreased your total cholesterol levels, your LDL:HDL ratio remains dangerously high. As we all know by now, the LDL:HDL ratio is the most important statistic indicating potential cardiovascular problems related to the lipid profile. The normal ratio is 3 or less. Your initial ratio is 199:10 or 19.9--dangerously high. After using policosanol, your ratio became 96:19 or 5.05. This is still too high. The best way to combat poor lipid profiles caused by excessive AAS intake is to: 1) lower your AAS dosing to a point where the LDL:HDL ratio is normal (for most people, this level is somewhere between 400-600mg AAS weekly); 2) alter your diet to high protein, moderate "clean" carbs, and low "clean" fat. There is a third option and that is to take Glucophage to allow more efficient use of glucose. Glucose that doesn't end up in the muscle tissue ends up in adipose tissue or in the cholesterol cycle. This last option doesn't work for everyone.

 

[Fonz]

Fonz,

Great article and info. Here is my major concern. While you decreased your total cholesterol levels, your LDL:HDL ratio remains dangerously high. As we all know by now, the LDL:HDL ratio is the most important statistic indicating potential cardiovascular problems related to the lipid profile. The normal ratio is 3 or less. Your initial ratio is 199:10 or 19.9--dangerously high. After using policosanol, your ratio became 96:19 or 5.05. This is still too high. The best way to combat poor lipid profiles caused by excessive AAS intake is to: 1) lower your AAS dosing to a point where the LDL:HDL ratio is normal (for most people, this level is somewhere between 400-600mg AAS weekly); 2) alter your diet to high protein, moderate "clean" carbs, and low "clean" fat. There is a third option and that is to take Glucophage to allow more efficient use of glucose. Glucose that doesn't end up in the muscle tissue ends up in adipose tissue or in the cholesterol cycle. This last option doesn't work for everyone.

I'm researching an HDL increasing supplement as we speak(This however will take some time). I don't exceed 1000mg AAS/week btw. No need. With the addition of nutrient partioning agents, you can drastically increase the effects of AAS w/o any side effects. I do however use Garlic in order to off-set the low HDL.
Also, it will be interesting to see my blood test results in December. 7 months after starting policosanol. Could be that its HDL increasing effect takes longer than its LDL decreasing one.
But until I get the results back, thats pure speculation on my part.
I'll bump this post in Dec and post up the new blood test for comparison.

E23: For triglycerides 600-1000mg R-ALA/day with 10mg Novaldex/day works remarkably well.

Fonz

 

[Triple J]

Great post Fonz

one question - is capping absolutely needed? most of my BAC stuff I just measure into a protein drink and mix that way, sure tastes a little strong (herbals like avena, maca, trib) but still bearable, and beats capping

 

[alanchiras]

Hey fonz. Thanks! i bet you take as many pills as I do <GRIN!>. Even MORE karma to 'ya! Thanks!

 

[tomp]

Anyone try "Red Yeast Rice" for this? Very knowledgeable guy at Vitamin Shoppe claims it is much better than Policosanol for lowering effects! I went in there asking for Policosanol, but he is 110% convonced that the "Red Yeast Rice" is much better!

Anyone have any experince with it, please let us know?

 

[Fonz]

Anyone try "Red Yeast Rice" for this? Very knowledgeable guy at Vitamin Shoppe claims it is much better than Policosanol for lowering effects! I went in there asking for Policosanol, but he is 110% convonced that the "Red Yeast Rice" is much better!

Anyone have any experince with it, please let us know?

Total farce. Does nothing while on AAS. Also Beta-statin(From the statin class of drugs), does show some chol improvement but is hepatoxic.

And E23: Synthetic Guggulsterones are hypolipidemic as well. They will lower triglyceride levels.

Fonz