jon79 said:um at the same time.....
redsamurai said:unless they have your box tagged....in which case they wait for the electronic signal to tell them you've opened the package. Why do we still do packages that have to signed for? I would never accept one of those packages from a postman.....if it can't be left on the doorstep, than I don't want it. Now, just because it's left on the doorstep doesn't mean it's completely safe either. But the cops aren't going to sit around indefinitely waiting for someone to open the door and get the package.
drrman said:all these wise tales and so called "safe" ways to accept packages are bullshit my friend......if they want you they will get you, even if they have to violate some civil rights and make some shit up to make the arrest.....cops WILL break the law to get a case on you, then its just up to you to pay a lawyer to prove they did it wrong.....either way you lose.........thats the way it works
yea i know i did not mean to sound sarcastic....sorryReubsf said:Thought so as well, but reassurance is priceless. K bro.
jon79 said:yea i know i did not mean to sound sarcastic....sorry
linux said:A guy at my gym was just telling me how a few years back he had an attempted controlled delivery..and the only reason he didnt get busted was he saw the black van (LE) pull in and park on the side. He said he saw the Fed ex guy get out of the van. The Fed ex guy came in and was asking are you so and so...he said yes....is this such and such address.....he said yes.... Thats when it hit him and he said let me go in the back in the parts department and see if anyone ordered anything. He said he went in the back and was flipping out and finally came out and said, nope, noone ordered anything, we dont need it. The guy had leave..they didnt have anything. The fucked up part is he had been setup by someone he knew who got popped and was dropping names to get out it. He said he never told anyone that he almost got popped. A few days later at a show, the guy who set him up said, hey i heard you almost got popped. He asked him how the fuck did he know since he hadnt told a soul.......Bottom line is they need you to accept that package or they dont have shit.....
drrman said:all these wise tales and so called "safe" ways to accept packages are bullshit my friend......if they want you they will get you, even if they have to violate some civil rights and make some shit up to make the arrest.....cops WILL break the law to get a case on you, then its just up to you to pay a lawyer to prove they did it wrong.....either way you lose.........thats the way it works
drrman said:i hate to disagree but i have seen cases with people i know personally where they did NOT accept the package....., they never had it in their hands or posession, and the cops still put enough bullshit together to arrest him and search his house. given he did get out of the case, but 15k later??
tbolking said:go domestic!!
resqguy said:Ok, you guys are scaring the shit outta me. I'm about to make my first purchase...now I'm starting to think twice...
Reubsf said:Don't worry bro...you'll go through the same level of paranoia. The thing about AAS users is that most of us have good jobs, families, educations, friends, liquid assets, are not "criminals" per se, and that is a LOT for any sane person to want to lose. So I think that a certain degree of worry is definitely warranted. You should be fine with a domestic source. Good luck.

linux said:Oh shit dude im not arguing with that at all, cops are the biggest crooks out there......im just saying in this case...and if follow the letter of the law the package has to be accepted..which is such bullshit.....who in the world isnt going to accept a package if the UPS guy comes...i bet if i sent out a thousand packages to innocent people with some contraband inside all thousand would accept it......
resqguy said:I had intended to, but now I don't know what to do.
drrman said:fuck it man, dont' order anything, quit working out more, eat more ice cream and make fun of the people in shape...

what lab did i order from or was this international order?Reubsf said:...so in the case of a controlled delivery, or a delivery that LE may be monitoring, how long after receipt of the package do you think it would be before they were knocking on your door? Any insight appreciated, bros.
tbolking said:also dont get gear delivered to your house, especially BULK!!
you dont have any worries domestic if your source is good
tbolking said:rented mail box
resqguy said:Thanks. You know, I've been across the boarder a thousand times and never brought anything back. I'm thinking that maybe going and getting it myself might be the way to go. The person who gave me my source (don't worry, I'd never mention names) has been very helpful and patient with my questions. However, getting the source just seemed too easy. If he reads this, he'll probably be pissed, and that's not my intention. I guess it's just the first time jitters.![]()
eastcoastplayer said:if it seemed too easy it probably was. dont worry about pissing a source off, he wants your money, you have every right to be skeptical. take your time, hang out, and when you find a good source get some references from some good bros around here and it will definitely save you some cash. im not flamin ya bro just hate to see you make some of the same mistakes i did. good luck
resqguy said:I'm sure this source is a good guy, but I think I'm going to hold off a little. I've waited 32 years to do my first cycle...I don't think waiting a little longer is going to kill me. Thanks for your input.
Smart? Not really, I just don't want to waste my hard earned money, LOL.eastcoastplayer said:smart dude

X Man said:what lab did i order from or was this international order?
If youve been across the border that much why not just buy down there find a place to shoot and be done with it. If I lived near the border that's what I'd do.resqguy said:Thanks. You know, I've been across the boarder a thousand times and never brought anything back. I'm thinking that maybe going and getting it myself might be the way to go. The person who gave me my source (don't worry, I'd never mention names) has been very helpful and patient with my questions. However, getting the source just seemed too easy. If he reads this, he'll probably be pissed, and that's not my intention. I guess it's just the first time jitters.![]()
Kachunga said:If I wanted to frame you I would send you a package. Your acceptance doesn't mean shit. Rick Collins has plenty of examples of people who accepted mail, were charged, but got off. Check the bodybuilding and the law forum
drrman said:either way, like i said its a lose lose for you!!! being charged and getting off is no walk in the park either, and you have to have money for an attorney.
and these guys that say "get a rented box"..............that is doing you no good either. You have to show a photo id and another accepted form of id, it is recorded with the USPS that it is YOUR box and they can simply set in the car and watch you go in and get it...EVEN AFTERHOURS.....as most think cops don't work when the places are close. anyways, all im saying is there is a risk no matter how you do it
supertech69 said:Exactly, I agree 100%, why bother dealing with all the extra MBE crap! I have it sent to my house, my mailbox, in my name. I get UPS & Fed Ex shit all the time in MY NAME so I think it would look a lot more suspicious to have random names dropped at your place all the time & as drr said before, if they really want you, they're going to get you. Unless you have an assload of stuff showing up at one time (in which case you are going to be nailed for intent to distribute) you should be fine. Number one thing to remember is keep your house clean!
drrman said:all these wise tales and so called "safe" ways to accept packages are bullshit my friend......if they want you they will get you, even if they have to violate some civil rights and make some shit up to make the arrest.....cops WILL break the law to get a case on you, then its just up to you to pay a lawyer to prove they did it wrong.....either way you lose.........thats the way it works
drrman said:fuck it man, dont' order anything, quit working out more, eat more ice cream and make fun of the people in shape...
supertech69 said:BTW, that's some funny shit! The sad thing is sometimes I think it would be nice to live that lifestyle, oh & lets not forget watching Oprah & Judge Judy all day long!
cat_fish said:If youve been across the border that much why not just buy down there find a place to shoot and be done with it. If I lived near the border that's what I'd do.
tbolking said:stick with proven source's who have good rep's. not these fly by night admins and mods nobody ever heard of
resqguy said:Ok people, stop PMing me and asking me who the source is and which EF vet suggested him. I might be inexperienced and new to this game, but I'm not going to potentially fuck someone over by handing out that kind of info. Sorry. I'm not trying to be a dick, but I have to respect the privacy of these people whether they're legit or not.
X Man said:bro u come on here acting all like uve never order before and you dont know wtf to do.... over course your gunna get a million people sending you PM and most of them are prolly scammers, some may be legit...
but saying is "xyz lab legit" or " just picked up some xyz test, anyone had any luck with it?" to someone isnt " messing with anyone's privacy" that shit is posted on these boards all the time...
so before you come on here acting like ur " protecting the source" think about what ur saying... and i dont feel bad for you if u get scammed because u didnt secure email a 20 people asking them about each and every lab.... seeing which got the best reviews...and then ordering from him
IM NOT trying to be a DICK, but my way of looking at labs or brand or sources, or however u wanna put it is this :
secure email as many good bros on here (ones that i trust, or ones that i have gained respect for becuase i read the post and u can easily see who knows their shit and who doesnt) as i can and get their feedback on the lab. analyze the info, think about how much im willing to loose, and then order from who ive heard the best amount of things about.
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X Man said:and also it took me 4-5 months of being on here before i got what you got in a week....
"sometimes if things come to easy.... they may not really be as good as they seem"
X Man said:what do you consider a source?
contact info for a lab maybe given to you.i.e. a secure email addy.
you find out the info about the LAB.
ive always seen it more often where u get someone on here who is making it blatantly obvious that he has never ordered before and doesnt know wtf hes doing... and then gets a million PM's with potential sources, most of which are scammers.
now ne one stupid enough to PM a newbie and ask the newbie for contact info for labs he knows jack shit about is a RETARD.
and just to let you know... no one says " is [email protected] legit bro?"
they say " is xyz labs legit"
SO like i said before, and im sticking behind MY POST, you can discuss a lab with a bro, when he PMS or secure emails you and offers to help you out... without " f*cking over your source" and without " giving him up to the feds" just use the name of the lab.
now i wouldnt make a big deal out of this but i offered to help you last night via pm.and im just trying to let you know how to go about doing this... because sometimes making posts like the ones uve made before, is setting you up for more BS pm's
No one PM'd me and asked me about the Lab or Labs that were being suggested...I can get an idea of what labs are legit based on the comments of the hundreds of people who post their results and opinions on this site. I'm just saying that I'm not going to give out the names of people or email addresses that I've been given, regardless of their legitimacy. Isn't that fair?very fair your a good bro for not giving out the email addy'sresqguy said:Your example of "is [email protected] legit bro?" is EXACTLY what I got. Yeah, I remember talking to you last night. And clearly you're taking my post personally when it wasn't an attack on you. Your message to me wasn't intrusive or inappropriate so relax.No one PM'd me and asked me about the Lab or Labs that were being suggested...I can get an idea of what labs are legit based on the comments of the hundreds of people who post their results and opinions on this site. I'm just saying that I'm not going to give out the names of people or email addresses that I've been given, regardless of their legitimacy. Isn't that fair?
nope i wasnt!drrman said:damn bro, you must not have been looking very hard
X Man said:very fair your a good bro for not giving out the email addy's
but you can see why it would be retarded of anyone to PM you asking for a source... right!?
K to you bro glad we got things straightend out![]()
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