contest prep, cycle ideas...

[Iron Queen]

(Before you start reading... remember I'm a female bodybuilder and I've already posted this on the women's board but curious to everyone elses thoughts)

Alright looking for everyones opinion here. I'm getting ready to start my contest prep and am planning on doing deca/winny/nolva in my prep but this is how I'd run it:

18 weeks total
weeks 1-10 deca 50-75mg e7d (not sure yet)
weeks 11-18 winny 50mg eod

Has anyone ever frontloaded the deca (females) for it to give any better results? So I could go first 2 weeks at 100mg e7d, then drop it down to 50 or so for the remaining weeks?

Also another thought... If I didnt frontload, the deca wont be doing anything in my body for the first few weeks really, so do you think I could find something that is fast acting that could give me good size gains otherwise?

I'm also gonna run the nolva for at least 16 weeks this time so it will cut down on water retention from the deca also.

I've done deca before up to 75mgs e7d and LOVED it also same w/ the winny, use both before during a contest prep and came in great for my show. I'm planning on weighing in at the high end of the MWs for my show.

I also wont be using any thermogenics this time due to high blood pressure and possible heart problems that I've had in the past. So no clen, ECA, or even T3... Hopefully cardio and a great diet will do the trick.

Any thoughts?

 

[ultragainz]

ever try gh and or slin?..what about anavar?. 200mgs of primo

 

[BigAndy69]

It would help us if you gave us more information about yourself, such as stats and previous cycles.

 

[Iron Queen]

OK... previous cycles. My last contest prep consisted of 12 weeks of deca 50mgs e7d/dbol 5mg ed then 6 weeks of winstrol 25mg ed.

(dbol did absolutely nothing besides give me major insomnia and water retention, so i wont do that again)

cycles before that have consisted of 50-75mgs of deca and have also done up to 200mgs of primo w/ that. Saw some gains but wasnt really thrilled w/ primo even at 200mgs. I got some hardness but no real "growth" like w/ the deca.

I've done 3 weeks of sust (during another cycle) at 125mgs e7d and will never do that again because I started seeing sides that I wasnt happy with... voice started to drop so I got off that right away. Otherwise thats about it, I've had really great experiences w/ deca and winstrol.

as for stats: I'm 5'4, will weigh in around 130 at 5% bf... Have already qualified to Nationals.

 

[ultragainz]

shit i see you juice better then some people on this board..ten times better...start hitting my ultracycles like there is no tomorrow..the womens board will be better...i still think gh/slin will be good for you...but if your cycle you posted is good then hit it..

 

[ultragainz]

throw some anavar in the mix..up the primo to 300mgs-400mgs....hehe.....also did i say you juice better then some guys on this board?good for you...really...

 

[ultragainz]

shit you juice ten times better then some guys on this board....some jackasses come and post some weak cycles...and your cycles looks better then theres.....for know on your the "ultraqueen"...put that in your sig...there are not too many girls where there name starts with the word "ultra"....so you better be happy..i dont let too many people use my name "ultra"...kick ass like there is no tomorrow...

 

[rippazoid]

Well first of all you shouldnt be worried too much about making gains when getting ready for a show. all you should be concerned with is holding onto muscle while getting as lean as possible. and without clen,eca or t3 you are probably gonna have to really restrict calories to get ripped. Primobolan is excellent at preserving muscle while on low calorie diet so you might want to run it about weeks 12-3 , taking your last shot 3 weeks before show date. If the deca works for you leave it in there. good luck. Im getting ready for one myself in march.

 

[NubianBeauty]

IQ, I would stick with what worked in the past.. Like they say, "If it ain't broke...don't fix it And BTW guys, I have seen her pics and she is TOTALLY AWESOME She will definitely place in the top 3 of any Middleweight class and she already has 2 1st placings under her belt!! Way to go Iron Queen, you inspire me

 

[ultragainz]

like i said she juices better then some people on this board

 

[NubianBeauty]

Also IQ, I don't know if you have read Lobo's EQ thread but that maybe a possibility in the future. I would not try it now for contest prep because you do not want any surprises just stick with what works and after you can play around with a few "things" to see how the body responds.. hope you did not mind the previous post, just say so(by pm) and I will edit/delete it and edit this too

 

[Quadsweep]

Your cycles sound similar to my girls. (she is a national Competitor). NubianBeauty is right go with what you know. Just out of curiosity, what kind of heart problems?

 

[Iron Queen]

NB... no those posts were ok No big deal... I just want some real size gains in this prep, I know I'll do good w/ the cycle I have planned but looking for anything better that I can come up with.

Quadsweep - lowered ejection fraction which I was either born with or it was caused from ephedra. not sure of which. I never had an echo until recently to see that it was bad, along w/ mild tricuspid valve insufficiency. Nothing terrible, but it wouldnt be good if I used any type of ECA... and I really need to watch fluid retention when I am on anything because I could go into CHF very easily.

 

[Iron Queen]

bump for anyone else???

 

[Maxx Out]

You said in your post that u have nolv. and will be using for 16 weeks to keep the bloat to a minimum. Well deca will convert to progesterone not estrogen so nolv. will do nothing for the water u might get from deca. The winnie should help a bit w/the deca bloat from what i hear. I would recomend ru-486 but I don't know what kinda of long term effects it will have on a woman(it's an abortion drug). U might wanna try some Eq, though. Just a thought. Good luck!


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[Iron Queen]

Nolva in women is a fat burner, it goes directly to the estrogen stored fat deposits that women get (like in the hips/thighs) plus it does keep the water retention to a minimum in women. Also... I'm not taking excessive amounts of deca for it to convert into progresterone so I wouldnt worry about taking the nolva for that reason.

--IQ

 

[DROCK]

It does not take excessive amounts of dec to convert little lassie??? and as you know guys take winnie to keep from gettin b-tits from dec so as the person mentioned above winnie will take care of any blote factor from the dec.. we saw more changes in you from the win I say up that this time as long as no sides occure, 50ed hehe but hey it's what it worth to ya..ya know

 

[Maxx Out]

Nolva in women is a fat burner, it goes directly to the estrogen stored fat deposits that women get (like in the hips/thighs) plus it does keep the water retention to a minimum in women. Also... I'm not taking excessive amounts of deca for it to convert into progresterone so I wouldnt worry about taking the nolva for that reason.

--IQ

No prob., I thought u were just using it to stop the bloat from the deca, in which case it wouldn't work! My bad. Good luck w/your show.


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