Confused whild cutting?

[swordfish151]

Ok im currently cutting to get down to 13% BF so i can start my cycle of sustanon in may. I have found that just merley saying im going to cut doesnt work..i have found my BMR (went to three different sites and got 3 different answers) ok im 26 yrs old, 5'6 and 220 currently at 19% BF. I lift 3 days a wk and do cardio 3 days a wk. I have found that i can easly gain wieght and pretty much loose wieght..but wieght is not what im looking for to loose but BF (so when i loose or gain, im probably loosing muscle and gaining fat!!!! ) ...so im going to start keeping a food log daily. My BMR is 2170 (i averaged all the answers i got) I workout like its my last day to lift...but it seems that i dont get any stronger, somewhere i read that i maybe underestimating my caloric intake..maybe this is why im not growing and not gaining any strength (or it feels like its taking forever..i have a pretty muscular build, but cant seem to define my chest,back or arms..arms are solid but no real definition, chest is thick and with a shirt on looks big but if i take off my shirt then there is no real definition either..no seperation), but thats beside the point..i need to get my BF down...based off my BMR how can i come up with a caloric figure to cut BF? All suggestions welcome...

 

[Makavelli]

Simple: Eat 2400 calories a day for a week. I mean exactly 2400. If you don't lose or gain, then it's your BMR. If you lose, your BMR is higher, if you gain, your BMR is lower. Shouldn't take too long to figure out.

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Simple: Eat 2400 calories a day for a week. I mean exactly 2400. If you don't lose or gain, then it's your BMR. If you lose, your BMR is higher, if you gain, your BMR is lower. Shouldn't take too long to figure out.

Exactly, dont think tooo hard. Good way to burn yourself out before your cycle

 

[swordfish151]

Simple: Eat 2400 calories a day for a week. I mean exactly 2400. If you don't lose or gain, then it's your BMR. If you lose, your BMR is higher, if you gain, your BMR is lower. Shouldn't take too long to figure out.

whats up mak dog...ok so how do i gauge if its muscle of bf that im loosing or fat that im gaining..by the foods im consuming?

 

[ohashi]

ok so how do i gauge if its muscle of bf that im loosing or fat that im gaining..

Buy a pair of skinfold calipers, and chart your total weight, bodyfat, and LBM while you're dieting.

 

[solidspine]

Exactly, dont think tooo hard. Good way to burn yourself out before your

Ditto


I could not agree more, cut your calories, you are going to lose some muscle, either way!

 

[Makavelli]

Buy a pair of skinfold calipers, and chart your total weight, bodyfat, and LBM while you're dieting.

There's your answer. Also when you're getting harder you'll know that you're losing BF. When you're losing weight, but look the same, you're in trouble...

 

[swordfish151]

Buy a pair of skinfold calipers, and chart your total weight, bodyfat, and LBM while you're dieting.

yeah i got one of those..but i know i cant really properly use it...also im still stuck on the 12-8-6 rep range for workouts...i know i know..it should be higher reps shorter rest period...so 12-15 reps? 3 or 4 sets? i just cant feel that im doing anything when doing 15 reps...the wieght might be to light you say.....but when adding more wieght then reps fall...am i over anlalyzing this to a bloody pulp? So the amount of wieght you lift doesnt matter as long as your using enough to get stimulated and reps should be higher?

 

[Makavelli]

yeah i got one of those..but i know i cant really properly use it...also im still stuck on the 12-8-6 rep range for workouts...i know i know..it should be higher reps shorter rest period...so 12-15 reps? 3 or 4 sets? i just cant feel that im doing anything when doing 15 reps...the wieght might be to light you say.....but when adding more wieght then reps fall...am i over anlalyzing this to a bloody pulp? So the amount of wieght you lift doesnt matter as long as your using enough to get stimulated and reps should be higher?

Oh, you just hit a nerve. Get ready for all caps: WHILE CUTTING YOU MUST USE HEAVY WEIGHT AND REPS IN THE 6-10 RANGE TO KEEP YOUR MUSCLE. THIS WILL KEEP YOUR METABOLISM HIGH AND ALLOW YOU TO KEEP LOSING FAT. HIGH REPS ARE A MYTH THAT JUST WON'T DIE...
Understand?

 

[swordfish151]

There's your answer. Also when you're getting harder you'll know that you're losing BF. When you're losing weight, but look the same, you're in trouble...

define harder..in what areas..my arms are solid..and my legs are too but my back/chest/midsection are soft...its wierd...its like i can have a tanktop on and look solid..arms are great..but like i said no definition just hard..but once i take the tanktop off it throws the whole thing off whack! lol

 

[swordfish151]

Oh, you just hit a nerve. Get ready for all caps: WHILE CUTTING YOU MUST USE HEAVY WEIGHT AND REPS IN THE 6-10 RANGE TO KEEP YOUR MUSCLE. THIS WILL KEEP YOUR METABOLISM HIGH AND ALLOW YOU TO KEEP LOSING FAT. HIGH REPS ARE A MYTH THAT JUST WON'T DIE...
Understand?

that is what i wanted to hear!!!! i cant do that high rep crap...heavy is good while cutting...

 

[Makavelli]

define harder..in what areas..my arms are solid..and my legs are too but my back/chest/midsection are soft...its wierd...its like i can have a tanktop on and look solid..arms are great..but like i said no definition just hard..but once i take the tanktop off it throws the whole thing off whack! lol

Harder means that you look leaner. The muscles will look hard when there is little fat covering them up. That means that you're losing fat and not muscle. You look "harder".

 

[DiamondCutCows]

Harder means that you look leaner. The muscles will look hard when there is little fat covering them up. That means that you're losing fat and not muscle. You look "harder".

And when your body begins to become "hard" you will know. Delts begin to feel tight when talking on the cell. Forearms when typing, things like that.







Could also be the dbol doing it to me, LOL

 

[Makavelli]

And when your body begins to become "hard" you will know. Delts begin to feel tight when talking on the cell. Forearms when typing, things like that.







Could also be the dbol doing it to me, LOL

Winstrol and tren tend to do that as well...

 

[swordfish151]

good stuff...

 

[bobdudeman]

This is such a good site to be a member on. I can read read read and learn learn learn.

 

[shamrock11]

What kind of skin fold calp. do you have? I just bought an electronic one and it works wonders. I got it from completesupplments.com. It's a great site to get things like that and they also sell protein and MRP and other stuff really cheap.

 

[Catch Wrestler]

Mak.,that's exactly what I was about to say about the high reps thing.Hits a nerve with me too!!!! It's incredible,we're in the year 2005,and people still think that you need high reps to burn bodyfat.I just don't get it!!!(bTW,I'm not having a go at you swordfish,it's not you but so many others).

 

[blut wump]

6-10 is high reps.

A cutting cycle isn't the best time to be blasting your body into submission and crazy high reps will probably lose you more muscle than you'd like. Normal bulking/building is about knocking your muscles down and then feeding them back up to a new, higher state. If you aren't going to be feeding them up then don't knock them down. Keep your protein intake as high as normal and reduce the carbs and fats to reduce the calories.

 

[Bald Gorilla]

You sound like you need to watch your carbs. Keep protein super high and adjust carbs for fat loss...

 

[swordfish151]

well i have "cut" in the past and never did the high rep recommendation i was saying it because i thought maybe that is where i was going wrong..but apparantly not..i believe im going wrong in my food intake...i need to keep a log and be strict with it....i'll keep you guys updated!

 

[Makavelli]

Mak.,that's exactly what I was about to say about the high reps thing.Hits a nerve with me too!!!! It's incredible,we're in the year 2005,and people still think that you need high reps to burn bodyfat.I just don't get it!!!(bTW,I'm not having a go at you swordfish,it's not you but so many others).

Yeah. A perfect example of this is Ronnie. His training doesn't change at all year round. In fact he hasn't changed his training since he started.