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Conditioning and agility...

b fold the truth

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Strange...I feel really good on the events but we did a bunch of agility drills the other day and not only did I get really sore but I was sucking wind too. I feel like a pretty skinny 275-280 too...lol.

Trying to find a way to add in some light agility drills into my weekly routine and it not affect my workouts greatly...

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I have started doing sprint, jump and agility drills .
My gym work is getting better, my leg strength is going up, my fat is going away and i feel more like an "athlete" now (more on that in a few weeks)


could you do them as warm ups to event practices? do them light as recovery sessions? swap them for sled dragging?
 
Yeah conditioning helps alot, I have added a few dragging trips on Friday and Monday, felt great this last DE squat day then did something to my hip lol. I breath so much better when we train with 4 people and weighing a skinny 270.
 
lol, try not to jump right into it B fold. It is not easy at first and you need to get use to moving your own bodyweight. I really think you should go 60% so you can find a groove in the drills and then start uping the intensity. You really don't want to go out and burn yourself down by going to failure sprinting and plyos, it will actually detract from your sprinting ability because of all the scar tissue buildup and leave one's knees vulnereable to damage since the surrounding muscles will be in a weakened state, and 27-280 lbs moving on weakened stabilizers is not good
 
get some nike aqua shoes and start doing a plyo/sprint routine in the pool....when your knee gets better move onto dry land. Do a solid plyo routine on de lower day and me upper day...
 
IronLion said:
get some nike aqua shoes and start doing a plyo/sprint routine in the pool....when your knee gets better move onto dry land. Do a solid plyo routine on de lower day and me upper day...

Nike Aqua Shoes? Do tell more...

I have recently started working in the Athlete Gym for Murray State. I don't do much and the job is a favor from the strength coach. They have all kinds of toys to play with and it is about 30 yards from the football field. The pool is across campus...but I'll bet that they will let me use it when I need it too...

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The aqua shoes are just those little slipper type things that a lot of people wear when riding waverunners or at the lake. They are good for pool work b/c they keep your feet from getting torn up by the bottom of the pool and they provide better traction for sprinting.

The reason I suggested you start in the pool is so that you can get the cardiovascular and anaerobic benefits (not as much as on dry land) without overstressing your joints. Plyos stress the hell out of my joints especially when I am weight training and or playing ball so I do a sprint/plyo routine in the pool to get a little extra hiit without totally overtraining.

I recommend a lane about 4 feet deep, you are the same height as me so this should be right for you. Start with a few sprints to loosen up, you should focus on moving the legs fast and touching the pool bottom like it was "hot" b/c you won't cover much ground in the pool so it is pointless to try to run "fast" underwater. I hope that made sense.

Next move to some high knee sprints, then some fast skips then some backpedaling. I usually do 2 laps of each in an olympic sized pool. I don't rest for more than 10 seconds in between so it is pretty much nonstop. Work on some squat jumps, and then knee tucks, about 3 sets of 5 for each non stop. Then move to some single leg hops, I go back and forth over the line in the middle of the lane as fast as possible, then come back on the opposite leg. Your legs should be on fire after this. Next do some side bounding and some more sprints. You control the intensity and the work, you can do more or less depending on how you feel, I usually spend about 20 minutes on a routine like this and I am breathing pretty hard throughout. The great thing is that your knees won't be trashed for a few days after.

hope that helps
 
Wow...thanks. I need to get on that...

My knees and shins are tore up from doing what little work I did on Friday...I could feel it today.

Thanks a ton man...

Do you think that it would be beneficial to tape up my ankles when doing some of the events? For instance...today I did some speed runs with 325 farmers and I could feel it in my ankles a good bit. Would taping them help with stability?

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b fold, you could jump rope either before or after your workouts, or as an extra workout. Its fairly easy on your joints and helps a lot with agility and conditioning.
 
Zander1983 said:
b fold, you could jump rope either before or after your workouts, or as an extra workout. Its fairly easy on your joints and helps a lot with agility and conditioning.

Maybe I should try doing this in the grass on some rubber mats or something...jumping rope always kills my knees...

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b fold the truth said:
Maybe I should try doing this in the grass on some rubber mats or something...jumping rope always kills my knees...

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Maybe. Try and stay on your the balls of your feet/on your toes and it shouldn't be as much of a problem.

The best way to describe it is "gliding" or "floating" on your toes. I like to touch the ground with alternate feet. It isn't really jumping.

But then you're a lot bigger man than I, so it mighn't be a form thing.
 
My feeling on taping: don't do it....this is a decision I made after about 6 or 7 years of football where I would tape my ankles before every game and practice. I also would roll my ankle 50 times each year....lol. Finally I found a trainer that had me start doing work on one of those wobble boards, and he quit letting me tape. My ankles have gotten so much stronger from not taping that I would never recommend someone do it. It is the equivalent of using wrist straps all the time.

Just my opinion....almost all the other guys on my football team this year taped for practice and games. I did not. Most of them had ankle problems, I did not...
 
I stretch my ankles every workout, rolled ankles no problem, because my flexibility is there - I can walk on my ankles :)

Plus jumpstretch sells a vid for tehir bands, for the ankles that make em bullet proof
 
endpoint said:
how much time did you spend on the wobble board? was there a movement you tried to achieve?

I did the circular wobble board almost everyday, I would do side lunges onto it and front squats. The goal I had and finally was able to do was to stand on it with both feet and do upper body plyo, like medicine ball passes, without touching or falling off
 
Interesting...

They have several types of wobble boards at the facility...I may try one when nobody is looking...lol.

What about taping the ankles for a contest...when going all out?

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