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benchmonster
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My first one was surprisingly easier, but the second one was way harder.
Just depends upon expectations. I had none going into the first one and got 9 whites.
My guess is, that the squatting in a full meet is where you are really going to have to think. Not having done a full meet yet, I can only guess, but it seems like getting that first one buried and getting on the board would be very very important.
I would recommend openers you can get in your sleep. No need to bomb in the first one. I may open at around 405 in the squat my first meet, even if I plan to go over 600 for a 3rd attempt, just to make sure to get on the board.
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Just depends upon expectations. I had none going into the first one and got 9 whites.
My guess is, that the squatting in a full meet is where you are really going to have to think. Not having done a full meet yet, I can only guess, but it seems like getting that first one buried and getting on the board would be very very important.
I would recommend openers you can get in your sleep. No need to bomb in the first one. I may open at around 405 in the squat my first meet, even if I plan to go over 600 for a 3rd attempt, just to make sure to get on the board.
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Good point on the squat. Someone else warned me to start with something really easy too. I was thinking 135. Something that's not warm-up weight, but that I can generally rep comfortably.
This is exactly what I'm looking for...keep it coming.
Flooring? Bars? Equipment? Timing? Anything else...
This is exactly what I'm looking for...keep it coming.
Flooring? Bars? Equipment? Timing? Anything else...
Screwball
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Experience is the key to maximizing your meet results. If you want to hit big numbers at the Southern States then my recommendation would be to compete at 1 or 2 meets before November 1. You can compete just for the experience and not worry about maximizing your lifts. Make your attempts easy so that you can build confidence. I guarantee your lifting will be better if you get some experience before you hit the "big" meets you are trying to peak for.
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jeremys
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how would i find meets in my area? obviously search but i can only find a few things on say yahoo with my very limited vocabulary. what are some keywords? is there some directory somewhere?
i've stumbled across 1 but i've only got a month to prepare and to heal..if my parents will allow me to lift.
i'm clueless
i've stumbled across 1 but i've only got a month to prepare and to heal..if my parents will allow me to lift.
i'm clueless
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jeremys
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is there a plusa site or do i have to actually buy a mag?
IrishPower
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important advice for first time competitor
the number one thing on your mind for any meet should be getting on the board!
make all of your openers easily if you are not an experienced competitor!
i will give you a case-in-point. i opened light for me (725) on the squat last week. i fucked it up by stumbling. i was able to repeat it easily cause i had confidence in the weight. i just relaxed, analyzed how i screwed up and nailed it. i then made a 100lb jump for my 3rd attempt.
if i had opened high and fucked it up by stumbling, i would be in deeper shit because i would be losing confidence in both the equipment/technique and the weight at the same time.
it really, really sucks to travel to a meet just so you can watch everyone else bench and deadlift cause you didnt get your squat in.
some friendly advice: pick a nicer fed for your first meet. in general, in most apf meets i have ever been in, if a competitor came in with some average numbers and couldnt legitimately get their depth, they were usually allowed to continue anyway. to me this is fair. HOWEVER, if you are planning on going to a meet and trying records on your first attempt, you better be able to back it up. This is WHY i discourage people from NOT competing until they get records. I did this for ages and ALWAYS fucked myself.
I can give you advice on the bench and deadlift, but the squat is the most important and challenging lift of the meet.
good luck.
/irish
the number one thing on your mind for any meet should be getting on the board!
make all of your openers easily if you are not an experienced competitor!
i will give you a case-in-point. i opened light for me (725) on the squat last week. i fucked it up by stumbling. i was able to repeat it easily cause i had confidence in the weight. i just relaxed, analyzed how i screwed up and nailed it. i then made a 100lb jump for my 3rd attempt.
if i had opened high and fucked it up by stumbling, i would be in deeper shit because i would be losing confidence in both the equipment/technique and the weight at the same time.
it really, really sucks to travel to a meet just so you can watch everyone else bench and deadlift cause you didnt get your squat in.
some friendly advice: pick a nicer fed for your first meet. in general, in most apf meets i have ever been in, if a competitor came in with some average numbers and couldnt legitimately get their depth, they were usually allowed to continue anyway. to me this is fair. HOWEVER, if you are planning on going to a meet and trying records on your first attempt, you better be able to back it up. This is WHY i discourage people from NOT competing until they get records. I did this for ages and ALWAYS fucked myself.
I can give you advice on the bench and deadlift, but the squat is the most important and challenging lift of the meet.
good luck.
/irish
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What do you mean by going to a comp just to set records? Have I given the people here the false impression that I am only competing to break records? I know I have said before that I would like to reach Elite at my Florida meet, and those numbers would be nice, but I'm going to go give it what I have no matter what. There's always next time.
Pardon me if I am jumping to a false conclusion here. I have read enough today to know that there are alot of false impressions on this forum regarding who and what I am.
Pardon me if I am jumping to a false conclusion here. I have read enough today to know that there are alot of false impressions on this forum regarding who and what I am.
Re: important advice for first time competitor
After listening to many experienced lifters...this is the one point that has been driven home...and I am glad. Since I am just starting the competitive part of my "lifting career"...all I want is to get on the board.
This bench meet that I have in a couple weeks...checking my ego at the door. Just want to get some passable lifts. That doesn't mean that I will "lift scared". Just try to make intelligent attempts. The main focus for my first meet will be EXPERIENCE.
Good Advice Irish
IrishPower said:
After listening to many experienced lifters...this is the one point that has been driven home...and I am glad. Since I am just starting the competitive part of my "lifting career"...all I want is to get on the board.
This bench meet that I have in a couple weeks...checking my ego at the door. Just want to get some passable lifts. That doesn't mean that I will "lift scared". Just try to make intelligent attempts. The main focus for my first meet will be EXPERIENCE.
Good Advice Irish
IrishPower
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records....
no you didnt spatts! not at all BUT
i see it time and time again on these boards.
"i'm going to break this teen record, i'm going to break that national record.... i'm gonna be #1 in my state."
save the shit talk until you do it is my advice. and i can give it cause i had the same mentality for years. i still do somehow. i get all high when i get a state record but i am not stupid anymore either.
1. i opened 100 lbs below the state record in the squat for a reason
2. i know that my 'records' will last a very short period of time.
3. there are a billion feds. its easy to find one to make a record in.
i keep telling these guys to go to meets for fun. the records may come in time.
a real accomplishment is to do well for yourself in a meet or maybe qualify and place in a nationals.
/irish
no you didnt spatts! not at all BUT
i see it time and time again on these boards.
"i'm going to break this teen record, i'm going to break that national record.... i'm gonna be #1 in my state."
save the shit talk until you do it is my advice. and i can give it cause i had the same mentality for years. i still do somehow. i get all high when i get a state record but i am not stupid anymore either.
1. i opened 100 lbs below the state record in the squat for a reason
2. i know that my 'records' will last a very short period of time.
3. there are a billion feds. its easy to find one to make a record in.
i keep telling these guys to go to meets for fun. the records may come in time.
a real accomplishment is to do well for yourself in a meet or maybe qualify and place in a nationals.
/irish
powerlifterjay
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We (the Fl crew) will be competing at the Southern states as well, and trust me no worries. You will have lots of tiem to warm up. Just stick with the people in yoru flight and if anythign warmup too much then to little. Its really no big deal. At least not at Kieran Kidders meets. You can hear all the anouncements you will hear how long you have till you lift Etc. Dont worry about it. Its a breeze. Just have your warmups and attempts wrote down to make it a true no brainer.
Kieran runs one of the smoothest 3-lift meets I have been in. The warmup equipment is better than most meet equipment. You will have a monolift in the warmup room and on the platform. He has a couple expediters in the warmup room to give your 2nd and 3rd attempts to. I will be honest -- his judges have been busting everyone;s balls on squat depth for the past year or so -- so make sure you get them in. Garry Frank usaully lifts in the december meet along with tony conyers and beau moore so you will get to see a few of the top guys lift. Relax and have fun. If you are able to do that at your first meet then you will do better than most.
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Yeah I remember that lift I think. And I thought it was kinda suspect that he almost ran back to the video to see if it should pass or not. In my personal opinion, they both were good. However, like you said...why go back and review Moore and Franks, and then not go back and do it for your attempt or any of the other ones that were turned down.
powerlifterjay
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Spatts the only thing that really makes a difference bar wise is if you have access train with a fat bar leading up the meet. Maybe last 3 or 4 weeks. That way when you bench and dead the bar feels small and easier to move. For squats even though i did over 800 in the gym and 700's in the meet , i think my lifts are smoother at the meet. Not easier, but smoother, cause ther bar is long and strong. My bar whippes more. Plus there monolift is smooth.
But one thing that will change the way you lift in your gym and there, is depth. Make sure with your briefs suit on and straps up, and knee wraps tight you can squat to depth. And the most important way to make sure your there is having honest lifting partners. Being right at parallel may pass but its not good enough. If your high tell them to call it high. IN fact you coudl have someone call your depth there just liek the gym.
Like 1 dawg said, there are expeditors back stage 2 areas to warmup, several flights, and plenty of adrenaline. If you can pass the technicals of the lift, and just lift them correctly you will do fine. Thats were GYm time pays off.
But one thing that will change the way you lift in your gym and there, is depth. Make sure with your briefs suit on and straps up, and knee wraps tight you can squat to depth. And the most important way to make sure your there is having honest lifting partners. Being right at parallel may pass but its not good enough. If your high tell them to call it high. IN fact you coudl have someone call your depth there just liek the gym.
Like 1 dawg said, there are expeditors back stage 2 areas to warmup, several flights, and plenty of adrenaline. If you can pass the technicals of the lift, and just lift them correctly you will do fine. Thats were GYm time pays off.
Thanks, again.
Note to self...buy fat bar.
Regarding the experience issue, and not knowing many promotors for PL, do you have any recommendations for meets prior the the Florida meet? Any promotors I want to avoid?
...do any of you train ATF squats just so you don't have to worry about depth in a meet?
Note to self...buy fat bar.
Regarding the experience issue, and not knowing many promotors for PL, do you have any recommendations for meets prior the the Florida meet? Any promotors I want to avoid?
...do any of you train ATF squats just so you don't have to worry about depth in a meet?
powerlifterjay
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Everyone has thier own opinions on promotors but i personally like APA, APF. I got involved in the begining mainly because both are based in Florida. But if you wanna be able to use lifting gear (denim) then these and the WABDL are the three i would use.
If you can get a decent turnout Scott Taylor (APA)will come to your state and town and do a meet if you can promote it and get enough pre entries. If its good he;ll come there when ever you feel like doing it again. OKie is where the WABDL is alot. And also you can contch Daryl latch of the Son Light power Org. Its real lifter freindly and got some big lifters in it. Hell they fill up the back of all the PL USA's. But he is based in IL, and In. Not far to travel. Both APA and Son Light have web sites. With those two you coudl realisticlly compete every 2 months or so.
If you can get a decent turnout Scott Taylor (APA)will come to your state and town and do a meet if you can promote it and get enough pre entries. If its good he;ll come there when ever you feel like doing it again. OKie is where the WABDL is alot. And also you can contch Daryl latch of the Son Light power Org. Its real lifter freindly and got some big lifters in it. Hell they fill up the back of all the PL USA's. But he is based in IL, and In. Not far to travel. Both APA and Son Light have web sites. With those two you coudl realisticlly compete every 2 months or so.
I went to sonpowerlight because I saw them in PLUSA's mag alot. The link to 2002 contests doesn't seem to be working.
I was looking at the Missouri State and National raw records...and I'm a little confused. I assume these are tested. The record in Missouri is a raw total of around 580 at 181. That can't be pounds...is it? For 3 lifts?
I was looking at the Missouri State and National raw records...and I'm a little confused. I assume these are tested. The record in Missouri is a raw total of around 580 at 181. That can't be pounds...is it? For 3 lifts?
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jeremys
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spatts...i looked at that page and scrolled down. i believe all the totals and numbers are in pounds. most make sense, but yes, that one is a little low
Honestly, I'd like to do a raw and/or tested comp. I think I would enjoy that, and feel less pressure. I don't care much for equipment. Never used anything but a belt for the occasional max, and wasn't really convinced it helped. I kind of feel like I could focus a little better without it...wouldn't feel like everything depended on my equipment being just so. Does that make sense?
