comments on this cycle please....1st one

[CairoKid]

please comment on this cycle ....1st one...older and married

1st timer....planning:

Week 1-12 Test Cyp (500 mg. per week)
Week 1-5 Dianabol (25 or 30 mg./day)
Week 14-18 Clomid (at 100mg/day 2 weeks after last Test Cyp for4 weeks)

what else? PLEASE help, paranoid about sides, have younger wife, especially regarding PCT....THANKS


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[nydj66]

Good first cycle. Cut the cyp back to 10 weeks since you probably won't gain a thing after that and you're just prolonging recovery.

If you like, get some winny or anavar to finish the cyle (weeks 11 & 12) while the cyp works out of your system. Then start Clomid wk 13.

Just for insurance, you could get 5,000IU HCG and inject 500IU/wk while you're on the cyp to maintain your testicular function.

 

[CairoKid]

Good first cycle. Cut the cyp back to 10 weeks since you probably won't gain a thing after that and you're just prolonging recovery.

If you like, get some winny or anavar to finish the cyle (weeks 11 & 12) while the cyp works out of your system. Then start Clomid wk 13.

Just for insurance, you could get 5,000IU HCG and inject 500IU/wk while you're on the cyp to maintain your testicular function.

thanks for comments...like many first timers am paranoid about sides...(also married to younger wife, don't want to freak her out with weird sides)...anyway, mostly concerned with a good PCT program.. thanks again...anyone else?

 

[CairoKid]

bump....please comment on PCT....THANKS.

CairoKid.


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[CairoKid]

bump....please comment on PCT....THANKS.

CairoKid.


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looking for pct ideas, se above proposed cycle...Thanks

 

[Nelson Montana]

I personally think T and Dbol is a bit harsh for a first timer. Both are powerful but your dosages are reasonable. 12 weeks is also too long IMO but I'm the consevative here.

And as anyone who knows me knows, I think Clomid blows moose ass but even if you like it, 100 mgs for a month is WAY too much. You'll be elligable for the Girl Scouts after that.

 

[Recruit]

run the clomid @ 50 ed...if worried about your wife, you may throw in hcg to keep nut shrinkage away...

If you have to do dbol run @ 25 ed 1-4

 

[xrsist]

test cyp 10 weeks, clomid 50mg ED, i wouldnt worrie about dbol just yet as its your first cycle save it for next time. 500mg a week is your choice but for a first cycle 250mg a week is enough as long as your diet and training is in check. you will need an AI just incase and especially if you choose to run 500mg test a week. adex is fine. HCG is worth looking into if your really worried about PCT.

 

[slat1]

I would run hcg.
I may be mistaken but I believe the half life of cyp is closer to 12 to 14 days then 28.

 

[CairoKid]

I personally think T and Dbol is a bit harsh for a first timer. Both are powerful but your dosages are reasonable. 12 weeks is also too long IMO but I'm the consevative here.

And as anyone who knows me knows, I think Clomid blows moose ass but even if you like it, 100 mgs for a month is WAY too much. You'll be elligable for the Girl Scouts after that.

what to do instead of Clomid? Nolva at 20 mg./day maybe? And any comments about HCG? Thanks.

 

[OMEGA]

Sustanon 500 mgs a week 250 on Mon, 250 on Thurs weeks 1-13
Deca 250 a week weeks 1-10
Run .5-1 mg of Adex Per day Starting week 2

14 days after last Shot
Run Adex at 1 mg per day with 50 mgs of Clomid
run them for 4 weeks

Possibly look into Dermacrine as well

Blood Tests after

 

[s8nlilhlpr]

Sustanon 500 mgs a week 250 on Mon, 250 on Thurs weeks 1-13
Deca 250 a week weeks 1-10
Run .5-1 mg of Adex Per day Starting week 2

14 days after last Shot
Run Adex at 1 mg per day with 50 mgs of Clomid
run them for 4 weeks

Possibly look into Dermacrine as well

Blood Tests after

why would you have him using sust and deca? he's worried about sides with a young wife, deca dick would probably scare him. And doesn't sust get the test flu for some people? I would stick to single ester, and I assume he probably already has the cyp.

agree with the adex and clomid, dunno if he has plans for any anti-e's.

 

[silver_shadow]

why would you have him using sust and deca? he's worried about sides with a young wife, deca dick would probably scare him. And doesn't sust get the test flu for some people? I would stick to single ester, and I assume he probably already has the cyp.

agree with the adex and clomid, dunno if he has plans for any anti-e's.

didn't know you had entered the dark side

 

[OMEGA]

Deca at 250 a week is very well tolerated and adds alot of benefits to a cycle ( even if its your first)

Sustanon is choice Test as far as am concerned and the Prop is great thus you can ditch the Dbol

 

[silver_shadow]

just stick to a test only first cycle - that's my advice. no need for complicating things any more than that.

 

[MichaelScott]

all do respect omega that seems a little hard core for a first timer, i am going to be first timer and i would never try all that, test e 250 wk 1-12 clomid after

 

[OMEGA]

understood hstern

it is an opinion based on being involved for a while

as a note anything above 250 of Deca would indeed be risky or rather less well tolerated generally


to go back to what others said YES 500 on one ester is more then fine

 

[todoveritas]

I vote with Omega. Ditch the D-bol for a first cycle. If it is sides you are truly worried about, go with a Test only cycle for 12 weeks. If you must stack go with low dose Deca, 250-300 a week. (DD is not going to occur at low doses, despite the net rhetoric.) It's still one of the safest AAS out there. My preference would be: at week 10 administer 2500iu hCG and again at week 12. 10 days after last shot of Test Cypionate, start Clomid 300mg on day 1; then use 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days.

 

[s8nlilhlpr]

Deca at 250 a week is very well tolerated and adds alot of benefits to a cycle ( even if its your first)

Sustanon is choice Test as far as am concerned and the Prop is great thus you can ditch the Dbol

I agree deca/sust would be great, but like I said i'm pretty sure he already has the cyp. why do you prefer sust? IIRC it used to be b/c you could get pharm grade guaranteed, but now some of the UG labs are just as good. What do you think are the benefits of sust?

 

[5x10]

i would lower the test to 200-300mgs a week
take 200-300mgs of deca a week

i like the dbol, this is my first time to use it, and it gives me some results after 2 weeks instead of waiting the full 4-6 for the long esters to kick in

 

[nydj66]

I would run hcg.
I may be mistaken but I believe the half life of cyp is closer to 12 to 14 days then 28.

There are web sites that put the half-life of test cyp at 12 days but when measured in a clinical setting it's about 5 days. Just like test enanthate which most web sites put at 10.5 days.

 

[xrsist]

I vote with Omega. Ditch the D-bol for a first cycle. If it is sides you are truly worried about, go with a Test only cycle for 12 weeks. If you must stack go with low dose Deca, 250-300 a week. (DD is not going to occur at low doses, despite the net rhetoric.) It's still one of the safest AAS out there. My preference would be: at week 10 administer 2500iu hCG and again at week 12. 10 days after last shot of Test Cypionate, start Clomid 300mg on day 1; then use 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days.

hows the barbie collection coming along? lol

 

[Mac173]

I would run hcg.
I may be mistaken but I believe the half life of cyp is closer to 12 to 14 days then 28.

Isn't test e around 4.5.
So cyp will be similiar.

 

[CairoKid]

There are web sites that put the half-life of test cyp at 12 days but when measured in a clinical setting it's about 5 days. Just like test enanthate which most web sites put at 10.5 days.

THANKS to nydj66, Nelson, recruit, xrsist, slatt, silvershadow,hstern, todoveritas,5x10. Appreciate the education. Thanks for helping an old fart.

Thinking about keeping it simple...ditch the dbol, Test Cyp for 10-12 weeks at 300 or 500 mg./week, gotta decide how much, suggestions anyone?
HCG and Clomid. A-dex on hannd. Dermacrime on hand.

Thanks again.

 

[xrsist]

THANKS to nydj66, Nelson, recruit, xrsist, slatt, silvershadow,hstern, todoveritas,5x10. Appreciate the education. Thanks for helping an old fart.

Thinking about keeping it simple...ditch the dbol, Test Cyp for 10-12 weeks at 300 or 500 mg./week, gotta decide how much, suggestions anyone?
HCG and Clomid. A-dex on hannd. Dermacrime on hand.

Thanks again.

300mg a week is fine for a first cycle bro as long as your diet and training is in check and make sure you get plenty of sleep and drink plenty of water. enjoy

 

[markmark]

250-300mg test.cyp. 250mg. deca. will work great for a first-second cycle. run the test 2 weeks longer than the deca. that was all i used for years..

 

[nydj66]

Most (but not all) men can grow on 250mg/wk for a first cycle. Some men need 200mg/wk of test just to get their free testosterone into the normal range for HRT.

It's an individual thing. I'm pretty gyno prone but I can run 400mg/wk of test-e without any gyno issues. One I go to 500mg/wk I need an anti-e.

 

[silver_shadow]

300mg a week is fine for a first cycle bro as long as your diet and training is in check and make sure you get plenty of sleep and drink plenty of water. enjoy

agreed