Comments on my cycle?

[londonclubberguy]

After extensive research and reading what you guys have written on here, this is my first proper cycle that I am literally just starting. I have done two oral cycles before but have realised that I have been wasting my time in comparison to a cycle that is based around injectables.

I was planning to start this in a couple of weeks' time, but I couldn't resist trying my first jab! Very nervous at first but a hell of a lot easier that I had expected. Didn't even realise the needle had gone into my quad as it was so painless, although I didn't realise how long it takes to inject the deca through a 23G needle! Little bit sore now, and I guess it will but quite painful tomorrow, but the fear has now gone and I can't wait to jab my other leg with the sust after I've written this post!

Here's my cycle:

-----------Deca--------Sust---------Dbol--------Clomid--------Clen
wk1------200mg-----250mg------20mg/day
wk2------200mg-----250mg------30mg/day
wk3------400mg-----500mg------40mg/day
wk4------400mg-----500mg------50mg/day
wk5------600mg-----750mg------50mg/day
wk6------600mg-----750mg------50mg/day
wk7------400mg-----500mg------50mg/day
wk8------400mg-----500mg------40mg/day
wk9------200mg-----250mg------30mg/day
wk10----200mg------250mg-----20mg/day
wk11-----------------------------------------------------------1234567
wk12-----------------------------------------------------------7654321
wk13--------------------------------------------100mg/day
wk14--------------------------------------------100mg/day
wk15--------------------------------------------50mg/day-----1234567
wk16-----------------------------------------------------------7654321

With the clenbuterol, I'm planning to do two 2-week cycle bursts like this over the 14 days: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 tablets per day. I have heard that this is the best way to take clen.

Having read the great posts from many of you, I would really welcome any comments, suggestions or advice that you may have. I'm really looking forward to starting this new exciting chapter of my training, but want to make sure I'm doing things in the most optimal way.

Oh, finally... I've got 500 pink thai dbols and 500 naposim romanian dbols. From your experience, which would you guys say are the better ones?

Thanks in advance guys.

 

[South of the border]

Some observations...

I would start with the highest dosages straight off (no need to front load thought).

This being you third cycle, you are still pretty novice. A 1000mg total in injectables per week is plenty in my opinion (ex 500mg of deca plus 500 of sostenon taken in separate dosages in the week) . There is no need to go over that.

The dball dosage could be reduced to 25mg per day and/or taken only for the first five weeks.

Take a 21-22g pin for all your oil based injections and keep of most your injections in the glute area (less painful).

 

[Willyumyum]

I don't like how you taper all you dosages... With the test , I would start high for two weeks... I also think your liver is gonna hate you if you take dbol for 10 weeks as it is very harsh on the liver.... Tae it for the first five weeks maximum.
I don't know about your clen dosage either...

-----------Deca--------Sust---------Dbol--------Clomid--------Clen
wk1------400mg-----500mg------35mg/day
wk2------400mg-----500mg------35mg/day
wk3------400mg-----500mg------35mg/day
wk4------400mg-----500mg------35mg/day
wk5------400mg-----500mg------35mg/day
wk6------400mg-----500mg-------
wk7------400mg-----500mg-------
wk8------400mg-----500mg-------
wk9------400mg-----500mg-------
wk10----400mg-----500mg------
wk11-----------------------------------------------------------*******
wk12-----------------------------------------------------------*******
wk13--------------------------------------------SEEE
wk14--------------------------------------------BELOW
wk15--------------------------------------------\/\/\/\/\/\/---********
wk16-----------------------------------------------------------********

The clen i would start at 60mcg/day, and not go above 120mcg (I think that is 6 pills - each being 20mcg, but I would double check because im NOT positive about that)

With the clomid I would start the first day with 300mg. then the rest of that week go with 100mg, the next week 50mg/day then the next week 50mg every other day.

YUM

 

[genarr3]

Some observations...

I would start with the highest dosages straight off (no need to front load thought).

This being you third cycle, you are still pretty novice. A 1000mg total in injectables per week is plenty in my opinion (ex 500mg of deca plus 500 of sostenon taken in separate dosages in the week) . There is no need to go over that.

The dball dosage could be reduced to 25mg per day and/or taken only for the first five weeks.

Take a 21-22g pin for all your oil based injections and keep of most your injections in the glute area (less painful).

Thanks for saving me the typing, this is what I was thinking. There is no need to pyramid the doses, particularly with the sust. Not only is it not helping, you're asking to get test flu. Pick a dose and do it the whole way through. The dBol dose is excessive, it's not healthy and there is no need for it.

 

[londonclubberguy]

Thanks guys. The advice is greatly appreciated. Excuse me for sounding like a total newbie ass, but what exactly is "test flu" and how does it occur?

 

[genarr3]

Thanks guys. The advice is greatly appreciated. Excuse me for sounding like a total newbie ass, but what exactly is "test flu" and how does it occur?

It doesn't happen to everyone, but I have had it happen to me. The symptoms are dizziness, nausea, and loss of appetite. I understand it's caused by fluctuating hormone levels. It most frequently occurs with sust, probably due to it's 4 test esters, but could happen with any type of test.

 

[Maxx Out]

I don't like how you taper all you dosages... With the test , I would start high for two weeks... I also think your liver is gonna hate you if you take dbol for 10 weeks as it is very harsh on the liver.... Tae it for the first five weeks maximum.
I don't know about your clen dosage either...

-----------Deca--------Sust---------Dbol--------Clomid--------Clen
wk1------400mg-----500mg------35mg/day
wk2------400mg-----500mg------35mg/day
wk3------400mg-----500mg------35mg/day
wk4------400mg-----500mg------35mg/day
wk5------400mg-----500mg------35mg/day
wk6------400mg-----500mg-------
wk7------400mg-----500mg-------
wk8------400mg-----500mg-------
wk9------400mg-----500mg-------
wk10----400mg-----500mg------
wk11-----------------------------------------------------------*******
wk12-----------------------------------------------------------*******
wk13--------------------------------------------SEEE
wk14--------------------------------------------BELOW
wk15--------------------------------------------\/\/\/\/\/\/---********
wk16-----------------------------------------------------------********

The clen i would start at 60mcg/day, and not go above 120mcg (I think that is 6 pills - each being 20mcg, but I would double check because im NOT positive about that)

With the clomid I would start the first day with 300mg. then the rest of that week go with 100mg, the next week 50mg/day then the next week 50mg every other day.

YUM

Nicely written Yum! Exactly what I would have done.

Maxx >>>>>

 

[londonclubberguy]

Thanks once again guys. The revised cycle looks great and makes sense, so thanks to yum and maxx. One final question guys...with 500mg sust, that's one jab (2ml) and the deca is two jabs (2x2ml).

Should I do three jabs at the beginning of each week using left and right legs, or should I split the deca into two jabs, one at the start and one midweek, with the sust jab at the beginning of the week?

Appreciate your help guys.

 

[Kahn]

I'd do 200,250,25 if it were my first, all the way through. I'd do two of those and then double everything