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Coming off the wrong way towards people

bigtasty25

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How do i start...3 weeks ago i started my first bulk cycle in the last 1.5 yrs or so, i competed 2 yrs ago while in my last semester of college... and won the overall of 35 competitors, but ive been busy with working after the show and now that im in job transition i have more time to put into my lifting...and let's just say its been going ALOT better than expected...put on that usual 12-15lbs in the first few weeks (im 3 weeks in)...im still holding at 8% at 5'9 and im about 210 now id guess.

The thing is...im used to being easygoing and laid back, calm, confident...and of course I should expect the aggression and hyper confidence that naturally comes with being on cycle..but it's almost too much. Im on 1000mg sust, 400eq 400 deca..and im almost too aggressive..and act cocky without knowing it, especially at the gym...i look amazing...but sometimes i wonder why people gravitate away from me... my assumption is they think im angry....but im actually just really focused on my bulking cycle and take advantage of the aggression in my workouts to lift heavier weights..normal ppl dont understand that. When my friends come up to me im always very friendly...even now.

Girls that have been interested in me through body language are starting to write me off as cocky I think..and i have too much pride at times to even talk to them, I think it has to do with the fact that ive been rejected/ignored in the past (was chubby as a kid and picked on alot)...i just pretty much ignore everyone, look straight ahead with focused extreme confidence/assertiveness/aggression and get my workout done.

Any advice? Maybe im thinking about it too much? LOL...im always very open minded to advice and what people have to say...do i need to walk around with a big sappy smile for others (girls too of course) to feel friendly towards me? With all the juice im on...and the aggression that comes with it..it's kind of hard to act "normal"...which is why i come to my elite brothers...:rainbow:
 
#1..why are you on that much test. completely unnecessary and of course you're goin to be aggressive

#2, people don't get when they're big and scary/jacked...people are naturally going to not want to engage them regardless of their personality.it's like the girl at the club wearing a super mini skirt and a piece of cloth equivalent to a hankerchif over her tits, wondering why everyone is oggling her. dude you're 5'9, 210 and ripped as fuck. most people are going to assume you're a prick or full of yourself regardless if you are or not. the only way that's dispelled is if you are openly friendly.

and why would you ever care what people think of you....WHILE you're working out? Most people look angry and crazy when they work out. go there to work out, not socialize.

you can socialize a million other places then the gym.
 
I agree with CW, who gives a shit about the fookers at the gym.
 
#1..why are you on that much test. completely unnecessary and of course you're goin to be aggressive

#2, people don't get when they're big and scary/jacked...people are naturally going to not want to engage them regardless of their personality.it's like the girl at the club wearing a super mini skirt and a piece of cloth equivalent to a hankerchif over her tits, wondering why everyone is oggling her. dude you're 5'9, 210 and ripped as fuck. most people are going to assume you're a prick or full of yourself regardless if you are or not. the only way that's dispelled is if you are openly friendly.

and why would you ever care what people think of you....WHILE you're working out? Most people look angry and crazy when they work out. go there to work out, not socialize.

you can socialize a million other places then the gym.

Yessir..i think it all comes down to why even give a fuck what others think...i started thinking that to myself immediately after i wrote this post...you're totally right..and after i started thinking "who even fucking cares what others think" i was immediately put at ease...i think i may just go with the KISS principle (Keep it Simple Stupid):artist:
And for the high heels comment..lmfaoooooooo

p.s: smurfyyy...omg long time no talkkk...u still living in shytown? How's everything? I was there last weekend and i froze my butt off, having been in florida 6 yrs ive become spoiled by the 24/7 vacation type weather LOL
 
Dude - roid rage and aggression is bullshit! Come on! We all know it cause everyone on the aas board tells us it doesn't exist!

Seriously, I am the same - I didn't even realise either during my last cycle until a few friends discussed with my other half about how strange I've been acting and so on!

Ease up on doses a little and do some meditation or some bull like that. Breathing exercises or something similar. It will help.
 
Yessir..i think it all comes down to why even give a fuck what others think...i started thinking that to myself immediately after i wrote this post...you're totally right..and after i started thinking "who even fucking cares what others think" i was immediately put at ease...i think i may just go with the KISS principle (Keep it Simple Stupid):artist:
And for the high heels comment..lmfaoooooooo

p.s: smurfyyy...omg long time no talkkk...u still living in shytown? How's everything? I was there last weekend and i froze my butt off, having been in florida 6 yrs ive become spoiled by the 24/7 vacation type weather LOL

milwaukee. hope all's good with you!
 
I dont think im gunna ease up on the dosages as my cycle is going great so far...im sure that has alot to do with it...but i think i might try the meditation...ive been sleeping alot lately which helps (but i need to do anyway) anything that helps me relax these days is a huge plus...LOL
 
Dude, you just gotta drive down the road and let that sheot out. Scream at the top of your head. Who gives a fuck if you pass people and they hear you. What ever you do, do not, I will repeat do not stop driving and do not keep any anger bottled up. A simple country drive is a excellent way to release anger. If you live in the city, like a big city........ hit the damn highway and wait til nobody is next to you. And go off. Beotch about everything.... because then you've said it. And its over.
 
Yeah bro...lately ive been getting angry pretty easily...but i think ive traced why ive been ignoring all the girls at the gym lately the last month or so..because i did it really bad today...and i felt like a jerk when i left the gym..AGAIN. Im very conscious of my surroundings and i percieve people very well. I dont really know how to say it without coming off cocky, and im a really honest guy..so ill assume u guys understand me since im thinking some of you may have had some of the same problems growing up. Well i was chubby as a youngster..thick glasses/big nose..picked on alot..made fun of..beat up...you name it, kinda like from the movie "Just Friends". the girls poked fun at me all the time...because of my looks...

Now the girls flock to me..because of my looks...my gym in south florida is supposedly the #2 gym here to pick up girls...im not here necessarily to pick up girls..it's all about working out and improving myself...but I'd like to improve my social skills with women too, and in general...at the gym is great because we both are health conscience from the getgo and that's important to me...but i just CANT GET OVER how they used to IGNORE me all the time because of my looks..and now it's exactly my looks that are bringing them to me and all i wanna (instinctively) do is ignore them....

It's hard talking about this...but i figured you guys would understand me better than normal folks..so instead of keeping it bottled up i figured I'd just get to the root of the issue since i picked up on it...
 
Yeah bro...lately ive been getting angry pretty easily...but i think ive traced why ive been ignoring all the girls at the gym lately the last month or so..because i did it really bad today...and i felt like a jerk when i left the gym..AGAIN. Im very conscious of my surroundings and i percieve people very well. I dont really know how to say it without coming off cocky, and im a really honest guy..so ill assume u guys understand me since im thinking some of you may have had some of the same problems growing up. Well i was chubby as a youngster..thick glasses/big nose..picked on alot..made fun of..beat up...you name it, kinda like from the movie "Just Friends". the girls poked fun at me all the time...because of my looks...

Now the girls flock to me..because of my looks...my gym in south florida is supposedly the #2 gym here to pick up girls...im not here necessarily to pick up girls..it's all about working out and improving myself...but I'd like to improve my social skills with women too, and in general...at the gym is great because we both are health conscience from the getgo and that's important to me...but i just CANT GET OVER how they used to IGNORE me all the time because of my looks..and now it's exactly my looks that are bringing them to me and all i wanna (instinctively) do is ignore them....

It's hard talking about this...but i figured you guys would understand me better than normal folks..so instead of keeping it bottled up i figured I'd just get to the root of the issue since i picked up on it...

Well... get over yourself and get used to whatever attention you get. Part of this acting out is just you being insecure. Woman won't really flock to you until you have a genuine/confidant personality to back up your looks. I think you think you're better looking than you once were but don't really believe it inside that you really are. And you might not be for all I know, lol. I can walk in a bar or walk on a beach and pick up more chicks than most anybody I know. I can also walk into a bar or walk on a beach and get no play whatsoever. The difference between me of before and the me of now is that I don't give a shit whether I meet a chick out or have sex or whatever. I know for a fact that if I act like myself and not to try to do anything but be myself that shit is bound to happen. Usually when I slip up and say things that are cocky they come out of me being an asshole and not insecurity. True cockyness to me is just someone who exudes confidance. I had a girl today tell ask me how I got my head through the doorway and I didn't even say anything really. Just the way I looked and laughed made her feel like saying it. This thread had my name all over it. :)
 
I would cut the Test Back to 500

that should even you out

on 1000 I bet they smell the Androgens and perceive it as dangerous lol
 
hey bigNasty - pics or STFU

LOL...just for u smurfster
The webcam shots are most recent from last weekend...my arm looks ridicuously small in the clear closeup sidechest because my forearm was closer to the camera and too much lighting, and the shots are horribly fuzzy so u cant see any detail except for one shot, i need a new digi camera =)...i never said i was big...im still a work in progress and i got a LONG way to go...still got another 5 weeks of bulking to go..then might take 2 months off and do another bulker before my next show l8r next year.
P.S- the lean shots are from my last contest...

Couldnt get ure head through the doorway? Sounds like the guy in that music video by britney "womanizer" LOL
But i really do believe like you said i do need to get over myself..i think it's because ive been doing so well in this cycle thus far I've been too into myself as well, and in general ...and everyone tells me girls love being ignored..i just played with that philosophy too...and the feedback thus far seems pretty negative so i think ill need to change my stragety around to giving...i always felt when i seemed interested in someone and asked them questions about themself and seemed genuinly and sincerely interested in the other person...they seemed interested in me...talk about a no brainer...LOL
 
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LOL...just for u smurfster
The webcam shots are most recent from last weekend...my arm looks small in the clear closeup sidechest because my forearm was closer to the camera...i never said i was big...im still a work in progress and i got a LONG way to go...still got another 5 weeks of bulking to go..then might take 2 months off and do another bulker before my next show l8r next year.
P.S- the lean shots are from my last contest...

But i really do believe like you said i do need to get over myself..i think it's because ive been doing so well in this cycle thus far I've been too into myself as well, and in general ...and everyone tells me girls love being ignored..i just played with that philosophy too...and the feedback thus far seems pretty negative so i think ill need to change my stragety around to giving...i always felt when i seemed interested in someone and asked them questions about themself and seemed genuinly and sincerely interested in the other person...they seemed interested in me...talk about a no brainer...LOL
hey dude, youre lookin great! have a happy holiday! nice to see you after all these years :)
 
hey dude, youre lookin great! have a happy holiday! nice to see you after all these years :)

ty smurfy:biggrin: and the same with u! It's been like forever.. U still ever talk to anyone from the bodybuilding room? Go greenbay fudgepackers LOL

OMEGA...lmfaoo...it gives me access to all the weights...:theshadow


And yeah lartinos...I think once you start to believe youre goodlooking...deep down inside others can sense it and it attracts them to you, like magnetism. I've tryed this myself..programming myself to be genuinly happy, a FEW times over the last 6 yrs or so...not with gimmicks but by proven methods based on human nature (i've read a book on how to have confidence and power in dealing with people and its taught me ALOT about human psychology)...once i started becoming genuinly happy and giving to others...interested in people..i felt easier to get along with and alot more laidback and stress free...i can honestly say i felt genuinly happy and at peace with myself...but after 3-5 weeks it always died off...it's like you said...deep down inside i didnt feel like i really deserved it...and I cant understand why i WOULDNT want that..something that good...
 
It's not impossible to get over it, just try and in time you'll meet enough woman and you'll be a believer. But if you don't try you'll never know and stay the person you are today.
 
Yessir..i think it all comes down to why even give a fuck what others think...i started thinking that to myself immediately after i wrote this post...you're totally right..and after i started thinking "who even fucking cares what others think" i was immediately put at ease...i think i may just go with the KISS principle (Keep it Simple Stupid):artist:
And for the high heels comment..lmfaoooooooo

Unfortunately these days people think some really stupid sh1t.
I have recently gotten in to the mindset of not giving a damn either (unfortunately) I've always believed that meeting people 1/2 way is always better then shutting the door completely. IMHO the best advice would be to adapt to the situation around you.

If you wish to go through life with a closed mind and an attitude then this is you. You might want to rethink the advice you're being given here
 
Unfortunately these days people think some really stupid sh1t.
I have recently gotten in to the mindset of not giving a damn either (unfortunately) I've always believed that meeting people 1/2 way is always better then shutting the door completely. IMHO the best advice would be to adapt to the situation around you.

If you wish to go through life with a closed mind and an attitude then this is you. You might want to rethink the advice you're being given here


I agree with you...when i think back i dont think i really meant it...shutting the door completely is not a good philosophy to live by lol..i think i meant just not giving a shit...in regards to thinking about it toooo much...adapting to the situation and surroundings sounds better...survival of the fittest:biggrin:
 
They know you mean buzyness and just get outta your way. All the serious people at my gym wear ipods , dont talk or pay attention to others . maybe just a nod of the head to acknowledge another bro lifting but thats about all.
 
They know you mean buzyness and just get outta your way. All the serious people at my gym wear ipods , dont talk or pay attention to others . maybe just a nod of the head to acknowledge another bro lifting but thats about all.

LOL...that sounds like me...except when my friends come up to me im super friendly..and when they leave usually the girls come out of nowhere

Dareem Charles trains at my gym and he ignores everyone and when they come up to greet him he sais a quick word or 2 then puts his headphones back on...his son who im friend's with...on the other hand is way friendler, he's very proper and polite,friendly...i hope he doesnt fall victim to thinking he's better than everyone else when he gets huge...Phil heath seems very humble and very friendly, same with shawn ray, levrone, palumbo, vince taylor, mike matarazzo...id much rather come off like them to people if ya know what i mean...i absolutely do NOT want to be one of "those" bodybuilders..lol
On a diff note...I woke up at 5 AM this morning...double workout today gotta make up for the gym being closed wed/thurs :-D
 
Dude - roid rage and aggression is bullshit! Come on! We all know it cause everyone on the aas board tells us it doesn't exist!

Seriously, I am the same - I didn't even realise either during my last cycle until a few friends discussed with my other half about how strange I've been acting and so on!

Ease up on doses a little and do some meditation or some bull like that. Breathing exercises or something similar. It will help.


I don't think it's BS (Roid Rage). It raises your blood pressure, and makes you tense. Normal situations that you would normally let slide get to you a little more. For those who don't normally have a temper and are easy going deal with it a little better, but those of us who already have bad tempers it makes it worse 10 fold. I try to control my temper as much as possible, but I've been known to get out of my car in traffic and threaten someone for shooting me sa bird. Get back in my car and think to myself what did I just do. My girl is nagging me, pisses me off and the only way I shut her up is to do something drastic, like throw a chair through my wall. :chomp:
 
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