CNN Meteorologist disses Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth"

[crazyjoe]

Check this out. Its a good video. It might take a little while to load. Watch part 1&2
http://www.aconvenientfiction.com/inconvenient3.html

 

[FriendlyCanadian]

I agree with redguru 100%

while we may be causing greenhouse gases, the amount that we put compared to the amount the EARTH NATURALLY puts out is so freaking minimal.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS NATURAL PEOPLE!!!!

 

[Lestat]

good posts crazyjoe.

I am glad that much of the US was reserved as national parks too! There is plenty of unused space to build homes, cities, etc. The issue was that industry (e.g. logging, oil) would love to have ripped up those forest and left nothing.

 

[5150guy]

Please read the attched, the secret is out.
The NASA GISS figures that say that 1998 was the hottest on record in the US have been found to be FALSE.
Steve McIntyre, the man who broke the "Hockey Stick", analyzed the data and told NASA GISS there was a problem after Y2K.
All the years since 2000 have been overstated in terms of warmth.
The new hottest year on record in the US is 1934.
Five of the US's top 10 years for heat were in the 1920's and 30's.


http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/08/ 1998_no_longer_the_hottest_yea.html

The Greenies will counterpunch saying that the US represents only 2% of the surface of the planet. That's 2% of the total area of Land plus Ocean but 6% of the Land area.

They'll also say that 0.1 - 0.15 C corrections are "statistically insignificant"

Lets take those pieces of mis-information one at a time:

1) The US is the best measured place on the planet with regards to temperature. There are some issues with heat islands that need to be corrected but generally speaking US Data is sound. Data from the US accounts for 50% of the measuring stations that NASA GISS uses to track and forecast world climate trends - it's a big deal if it's dead wrong.

2) If the corrections had been the other way the Greenies and their Media Friends would have been shouting it off the rooftops - this is pure greenwash - it is a BIG DEAL.

3) The whole Human Induced Global Warming House of Cards is starting to fall apart.

TIMBER !!!!!!!

Good research, I remember this guy explaining the errors in calucations based upon a change in the way the data is compiled. This is a dagger right in the heart of the hypocritical Gore camp.

I believe we need to take better care of the earth--no doubt, but Gore and his ilk are loosing credibilty on a daily basis for any one who is willing to survey the specturm of environmental experts.

Also, kudos for pointing out the US vs UN aspect of this. This could very well be the newtool de jour to force the new world order on us and to violate and disgrace the constitution.

Gore is a coward for not debating some of the experts who challenge his claims and conclusions.

 

[Megalomaniac]

good posts crazyjoe.

I am glad that much of the US was reserved as national parks too! There is plenty of unused space to build homes, cities, etc. The issue was that industry (e.g. logging, oil) would love to have ripped up those forest and left nothing.

I'm from an area that has one of the nations largest national forests. In 1887 when the forest was created the area comprised of 60% timber, today the forest is comprised of 84% timber. Most greenies would say this is good but the forest is over run by down timber and is like one huge matchstick waiting to burn. Also beetles have turned 5% into standing deads. Every year we spend more money preventing and fighting fires in it when it all could have been prevented by proper logging. No matter what any enviromentalist agrues, the proof that the best way to manage our forests is through PROPER management procedures which includes a well thought out logging plan.

 

[Lestat]

I'm from an area that has one of the nations largest national forests. In 1887 when the forest was created the area comprised of 60% timber, today the forest is comprised of 84% timber. Most greenies would say this is good but the forest is over run by down timber and is like one huge matchstick waiting to burn. Also beetles have turned 5% into standing deads. Every year we spend more money preventing and fighting fires in it when it all could have been prevented by proper logging. No matter what any enviromentalist agrues, the proof that the best way to manage our forests is through PROPER management procedures which includes a well thought out logging plan.

wow i wonder how some forests survived centuries without men around to prune them..

 

[Megalomaniac]

That first pic is of a fire that burned for 19 days while I was home. The entire valley for 80 miles was filled with smoke. The second pic shows some beetle damage(all the brown trees). Both of these things could have been prevented with proper management however the greenies would lead us to believe that logging is "bad" for the enviroment. Well lets see the stats on what a 20,000 acre fire burning for 19 days does to the enviroment.

 

[Megalomaniac]

wow i wonder how some forests survived centuries without men around to prune them..

they burned. they burned and created CO2 as they burned. Now we could let them burn like before or we could use the timber and save on the CO2 emissions. As for "needing" the trees for oxygen. One hemp tree puts out more oxygen than 30 pines, you don't see people going around saying cut the pines down and plant hemp though do you.
My entire point is EVERYTHING in america is about money. Sure there are some people out there who want the good to happen but they get ran over by the dollar. I am skeptical about everything our political leaders say, the reason is they wouldn't be there if it were for the dollar. That goes for Cheney creating a war so that his former company can make billions in no bid contracts all the way to Al Gore starting one of the largest(money wise) Non-profit organizations to "save" the enviroment. They all do it all for money.