clomid

[fallenangel]

I've only done one cycle in the past and i made the mistake of not doing a proper post cycle and susequently lost a fair amount of gains. Now obviously i want to avoid this problem in the future but i'm a little scared of clomid all i here is clomid makes me lethargic, depressed, emotional and acne ridden. I've heard about nolva for post cycle is this a good option and what are the dosages needed to bring test levels back to normal using nolva

 

[mrt]

Clomid is the way to go, no need to worry. Nolva is not a good choice for post-cycle. You can also try Clomid + HCG. Also add some of the OTC supps to keep gains Creatine, Glutamine, Tribilus, etc.

 

[gilly6993]

Nolva can also be used post cycle....they both restore test levels.....

 

[fallenangel]

yeah but is it as bad as people make it out to be? i mean you never here anyone say ANYTHING good about it. I've seen a couple of articles that say nolva is just as good if used with hcg

 

[gilly6993]

Everyone reacts differently to it.....and it's not as bad as people make it out to be....

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Nolva and clomid are very similar in structure. They were just marketed for different reasons hence they became separated in the bodybuilding community's mind -- even though they are actually very similar. Nolva has some advantages that clomid does not. Llewellyn has unearthed a study that suggests 20 mg nolva = ~150 mg clomid.

 

[fallenangel]

yeah i read that article he said it needed to be used with hcg right but why if 20mg of nolva = 150mg clomid as most people don't use clomid with hcg

 

[THeMaCHinE]

His position is that either clomid or nolva should be used with HCG. He's saying that LH and FSH levels rebound pretty quickly with the use of nolva or clomid (with the edge going to nolva); but that testes not being online is what is preventing recovery, hence the HCG... There is dissention over this viewpoint (the proper use/timing of HCG). But the HCG issue can be looked at separately from the nolva vs. clomid issue. I think his info on clomid/nolva is good. I'm giving it a try this cycle post-cycle.