clomid

[NFG123]

JJ,

Lemme rephrase the question.

I am using clen now, started creatine, ran HCG at the end of my cycle and am doing the 300.100.50 clomid dosing pattern ... so I have the bases covered for post cycle gains maintenance.

I am bumping this cause i need to lose fat after clomid (CKD until my next cycle)

I havent ruled DNP out yet, but its sketchy and scares me.

Question being, how long do I have to keep eating ABOVE maintenance cals to retain MOST gains (post cycle clomid) before I can diet!

I can't eat fucking 2g lb bodyweight on a diet, gluconeogensis would kick my ass and when i came off, id shrink faster than testicles in ice water. 2g is necessary off gear ... it just isn't (AFTER you are recovered)

Question is, how long should i eat like im "on" before I can diet on CKD *after clomid* and not worry too much., 5 weeks is just too long, im not willing to do it longer than 2 ... but is this enough ... is it too much. Bump for help.

NFG

 

[JibbyJabba]

OK...this makes more sense. Maybe now that your question is clarified you'll get better answers from someone with more dieting experience (I am ecto/meso) I knew there had to be more to this...

Don't fuck with DNP bro... just seems like a bad idea.

Have you thought about a Primo bridge? I ran it when on a Keto diet and got nice solid results... its known to be the one AS that does well on a caloric deficit. This way, you could spare your gains and lean up at the same time. Other than that, I am not sure what to tell you. I view the post-cycle period as much longer than most people... and I think high caloric intake is crucial for sometime post-cycle.

 

[NFG123]

agreed.

i will run hypercaloric diet until my nuts are cranking test at full force, but then i should be able to drop to 1 g and maintenance and even diet.

i thought about bridging, but talked to huck among others and since this is between 1st and 2nd cycle, i dont wanna annihilate my hpta quite yet. ill bridge later ... when i start looking to step on stage.

But then again .. is it safe to bridge and consider it "off"

NFG

 

[argent]

Doesn't the CKD diet call for more than 1g/lb of bodywieght anyway? Why would you need to drop it bro? Adjust your carb intake, and fat intake. I even increase my protein when I diet.

 

[NFG123]

kak diesel's ckd call for 1 g and the rest to come from fat except for weekend carb ups. im gonna follow his regimine.

NFG