clomid or nolva/pct regimen

[J_R]

Interesting what were you running if you don't mind me asking?

2% test cream

 

[needtogetaas]

i just want to say i took tical's advice when it came down to it. I bought forma-stanzol and HCGenerate, they're still in the sealed bottles in my medicine cabinet. After reading and listening to his info i got a hold of some clomid and i am about 3 weeks in and feel a lot better than when i started. sex drive isn't the greatest, but i don't want to combine them at this point to see what is working and what isn't. I just think a lot of the stuff that has to do with hating SERMS on this board is to push other products that the people bashing them are selling. that's just my 2 cents but I really don't know jack. so take it for what it is.

Meh this is all up to the interpretation of the person reading and learning for him self.

 

[needtogetaas]

I would love for anyone to put into retard terms how it can help to combine HCGenerate with Clomid. I'd at least like to take the stuff so it's not a complete waste of money. And just for the record, I did take HCGenerate on cycle and it helped none whatsoever.

Ok my friend. You have 24 post total on the site so its not hard for me to check them all out.. I am saying this because of the way your event has unfolded her on the site and I have troed to help you before.

1. Ok your first post was looking for a source and talking about
asian pharma and there brand of anavar Which Some one should have banned you right then and there on the spot. Major rule Violation. However its way old now and will leave it at a warning please do not do that again..

What I have been trying to do is help you though. You said in another thread that you used the product for sex drive and it was not helping you all that much.. If that is the case then the only time I have seen hcgenerate not work is when it is high progesterone that is causing the sex drive problem.
Just because you are on a simple test cream does not mean that this could not have elevated your progesterone levels.

Excess progesterone causes low libido. Sex drive is regulated by relative levels of sex hormones. In general, higher testosterone is linked to a high sex drive, whole excess estrogen or progesterone may lead to a low sex drive. Testosterone is synthesized from a precursor molecule, and converting the precursor to testosterone requires a number of steps. Progesterone inhibits the synthesis of testosterone by inhibiting one of these steps

Whne using the hcgenerate on cycle its use is not mainly for a sex drive increase although many users do experence this during the cycle ( way more so off the cycle) Its man focus is on preventing complete shut down, adding gains , and setting you up for pct. Again 98% of users do experence the sex drive increase be it on or off cycle when they take the product. For the small about of people who are not happy with the product they get a refund.. Which I offered you in another thread last week but you ignored?

Anyway going back to you and what you got going on. You were on a very lo dose test cream? Why were you on test cream. Looking through your old threads it seems you have low test problems? This is why one would be put on the cream in the first place. Now why are you doing pct off of your hrt or trt?

Did you ever get that anavar you were looking for almost 3 years ago? HA HA just figered I would ask for shit and giggles.

Anyway I suspect your man problem is ether high estrogen or high progesterone. Use the clomid/nolva what ever you like the sex drive is not coming back and likely will get worse after you come off the serm and your estrogen spikes back up again..

My advice to you is to add in both a Ai and something to lower progesterone into your pct. I feel very strongly that this is what will kick your sex drive back up again.. What ever product or drug you choice to do this I is up to you and I want even bother to give advice as to which one I think would work great for that. Just find a way to lower estrogen and progesterone. NO serms do not do ether of this they only block them.

I am not saying do not take the serm. I am saying take care of the estrogen and progesterone as well. As for the hcgenerate..... I offered the refund in the other thread and I will offer it again..

I tried very hard to go the extra mile for you the customer here. I looked through all of your info and cross checked it with my store. I tried to find you in the back office of my needtobuildmuscle.com store. Used all the info however for some weird onknown reason my friend... I cant find you? I wanted to saprize you and just give you the refund with out you even having to send me a pm with your order info or ask for it.. But its like you're a Ghost man..

So please send me a pm with your order info. I want to get you a refund right away. Just having a huge problem finding you... thanks bro

 

[skaman007]

u cant ask for more that that!! i know people with less knowledge than needto who charge for their advice!!

 

[J_R]

Ok my friend. You have 24 post total on the site so its not hard for me to check them all out.. I am saying this because of the way your event has unfolded her on the site and I have troed to help you before.

1. Ok your first post was looking for a source and talking about
asian pharma and there brand of anavar Which Some one should have banned you right then and there on the spot. Major rule Violation. However its way old now and will leave it at a warning please do not do that again..

What I have been trying to do is help you though. You said in another thread that you used the product for sex drive and it was not helping you all that much.. If that is the case then the only time I have seen hcgenerate not work is when it is high progesterone that is causing the sex drive problem.
Just because you are on a simple test cream does not mean that this could not have elevated your progesterone levels.

Excess progesterone causes low libido. Sex drive is regulated by relative levels of sex hormones. In general, higher testosterone is linked to a high sex drive, whole excess estrogen or progesterone may lead to a low sex drive. Testosterone is synthesized from a precursor molecule, and converting the precursor to testosterone requires a number of steps. Progesterone inhibits the synthesis of testosterone by inhibiting one of these steps

Whne using the hcgenerate on cycle its use is not mainly for a sex drive increase although many users do experence this during the cycle ( way more so off the cycle) Its man focus is on preventing complete shut down, adding gains , and setting you up for pct. Again 98% of users do experence the sex drive increase be it on or off cycle when they take the product. For the small about of people who are not happy with the product they get a refund.. Which I offered you in another thread last week but you ignored?

Anyway going back to you and what you got going on. You were on a very lo dose test cream? Why were you on test cream. Looking through your old threads it seems you have low test problems? This is why one would be put on the cream in the first place. Now why are you doing pct off of your hrt or trt?

Did you ever get that anavar you were looking for almost 3 years ago? HA HA just figered I would ask for shit and giggles.

Anyway I suspect your man problem is ether high estrogen or high progesterone. Use the clomid/nolva what ever you like the sex drive is not coming back and likely will get worse after you come off the serm and your estrogen spikes back up again..

My advice to you is to add in both a Ai and something to lower progesterone into your pct. I feel very strongly that this is what will kick your sex drive back up again.. What ever product or drug you choice to do this I is up to you and I want even bother to give advice as to which one I think would work great for that. Just find a way to lower estrogen and progesterone. NO serms do not do ether of this they only block them.

I am not saying do not take the serm. I am saying take care of the estrogen and progesterone as well. As for the hcgenerate..... I offered the refund in the other thread and I will offer it again..

I tried very hard to go the extra mile for you the customer here. I looked through all of your info and cross checked it with my store. I tried to find you in the back office of my needtobuildmuscle.com store. Used all the info however for some weird onknown reason my friend... I cant find you? I wanted to saprize you and just give you the refund with out you even having to send me a pm with your order info or ask for it.. But its like you're a Ghost man..

So please send me a pm with your order info. I want to get you a refund right away. Just having a huge problem finding you... thanks bro

I have had progesterone checked, it's at an acceptable level. As is my estrodial. No, I never got the anavar. And I have not had problems with low test, it was 320 which i saw was on the low side of normal and i used that as an excuse to justify using the 2% cream. big mistake. i was buying the cream from a relative that goes to the same gym I do. my body worked fine with a low side of normal test level and i wish i would have never even looked into any of this or considered using any kind of synthetic hormone.

 

[joe13]

I have had progesterone checked, it's at an acceptable level. As is my estrodial. No, I never got the anavar. And I have not had problems with low test, it was 320 which i saw was on the low side of normal and i used that as an excuse to justify using the 2% cream. big mistake. i was buying the cream from a relative that goes to the same gym I do. my body worked fine with a low side of normal test level and i wish i would have never even looked into any of this or considered using any kind of synthetic hormone.

dont you want your refund man?

 

[J_R]

dont you want your refund man?

I never asked for a refund. But I just sent needto my login info for needtobuildmuscle.com and the mastercard number he could refund the money to. So we will see what happens. I'll update and everyone know.

 

[J_R]

correction, i did not put my card number in the message. once he finds the order and responds that he will refund it, then i'll give him the info.

 

[needtogetaas]

I found your order friend. Took me a bit, but yes of course I will send you a refund my man. Send products back to The return address on the site with the same info you gave me in the pm. I will then write you a write you a check and send it back ( since your credit cards are no longer valid). That is how a company should take care of people.

The products work 98% of the time but of course there is going to be that small percent that they do not work perfectly for. For the record they have as high ( if not much higher) success rate as the drugs you buy from your source lmao... HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Try and get a refund from your source btw lmao in a million years!!!!!

But anyway Not every thing ( drugs serms what ever included) is going to work for everyone. Which is why you have so many different options,opinions, and experiences posted across so many different sites. I give the advice I give and its got a damn good track record. On top of that one thing sets my advice miles apart from anyone else... I WILL BACK MINE UP!!!! And no one else will. If the pct advice that tical gives you does not work for you, makes you feel like crap or you are unhappy in anyway.. Send him a pm and ask him if he's going to refund you? Help you get a refund from the place you got it from? If he can give you any kind of back up or insurance of any kind what so ever? Naaa doubt it..

You did not ask for a refund yet I sought you out and made sure you got one. I saw you were not happy and made sure in the end you lost nothing
from giving the products a shot. You gave them a shot and it was not what you needed for the problem you are having. Did not have the effect for you they do for thousands of others. So be it you lost nothing..

Now if the nolva does not fix the problem then what???? Maybe it will and if so great. But if not then what? I would be interested to see if you will be getting a refund from the person you got it from???

 

[J_R]

I found your order friend. Took me a bit, but yes of course I will send you a refund my man. Send products back to The return address on the site with the same info you gave me in the pm. I will then write you a write you a check and send it back ( since your credit cards are no longer valid). That is how a company should take care of people.

The products work 98% of the time but of course there is going to be that small percent that they do not work perfectly for. For the record they have as high ( if not much higher) success rate as the drugs you buy from your source lmao... HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Try and get a refund from your source btw lmao in a million years!!!!!

But anyway Not every thing ( drugs serms what ever included) is going to work for everyone. Which is why you have so many different options,opinions, and experiences posted across so many different sites. I give the advice I give and its got a damn good track record. On top of that one thing sets my advice miles apart from anyone else... I WILL BACK MINE UP!!!! And no one else will. If the pct advice that tical gives you does not work for you, makes you feel like crap or you are unhappy in anyway.. Send him a pm and ask him if he's going to refund you? Help you get a refund from the place you got it from? If he can give you any kind of back up or insurance of any kind what so ever? Naaa doubt it..

You did not ask for a refund yet I sought you out and made sure you got one. I saw you were not happy and made sure in the end you lost nothing
from giving the products a shot. You gave them a shot and it was not what you needed for the problem you are having. Did not have the effect for you they do for thousands of others. So be it you lost nothing..

Now if the nolva does not fix the problem then what???? Maybe it will and if so great. But if not then what? I would be interested to see if you will be getting a refund from the person you got it from???

"you will have to speak with mrsupps.com through there email about refunds for any products they sell. I do not own that place..

for the Needtobuildmuscle.com products you can send them back to the return address on my site along with the order info and I will send you a refund. __________________"

I can't send you a bottle of hcgenerate back i already used. that's the whole point of a refund, because it didn't work. i can send you back the sealed bottle that you will resale at the same price i bought it for, and then all that would have happened is me selling you your own product back and i will still be out 65.99 for the first bottle that didn't work! that makes no sense at all bro. and as far as ticals advice, my nuts are hanging low and are noticeably bigger, i feel better, my sex drive sucks but if that's all i have to deal with for 8 weeks for a good recover, so be it.