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Clomid opinion/contradiction

wordomr

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Clomid opinion/contradiction?

So I got this email from elitefitness.com trying to sell another steroid information book, at which i was briefly flipping/scanning the information when this caught my eye..........

"Like everyone else who has ever read a single steroid book on the proper use of anabolics, I used to include Clomid after each cycle. It was the responsible thing to do. So they say.

But there was just one little problem with this procedure. It seemed to make the recovery and the return of libido, testicular size, and normal testosterone levels WORSE instead of better. How can this be? Maybe I was just a weird exception to the rule. One doctor suggested I might have some bizarre feedback loop that gave the drug its negative effects. Maybe I was crazy...

Maybe not!

Nelson showed me in "Clomid - The Big Lie" the simple truth of the matter -- which is this: the thinking on Clomid is based on some very sketchy evidence which has been parroted endlessly in the bodybuilding community. In this section, you'll learn the bottom line."


Is this just another sales tactic? From what i've seen alot of people recommend clomid for pct on this site, so why would this opinion be stated?

Thanks
Just a noobie trying to gain info
 
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Hinyokika Kiyo. 1988 May;34(5):847-50. Related Articles, Links


[Clomiphene citrate therapy in idiopathic male infertility]

[Article in Japanese]

Hayashi N, Sugimura Y, Hori N, Yamamoto I, Tazima K, Tochigi H, Kawamura J.

Department of Urology, Mie University School of Medicine.

Clomiphene citrate therapy was performed on 30 patients with idiopathic male infertility, who were intractable to non-hormonal therapy. Clomiphene citrate was administered orally at a dose of 25 mg per day for 25 days with 5 days of rest following Paulson' protocol, and we favorable results were obtained: Both sperm count and sperm motility improved in 11 cases (36.7%). Odera's score count decreased in 14 cases (46.7%), which were judged as effective. The wives of 4 patients treated by this therapy became pregnant. After this therapy, the serum levels of luteinizing hormone, follicle stimulating hormone, testosterone and prolactin were 1.90, 1.81, 1.89 and 1.22 times higher, respectively. These findings indicate that clomiphene citrate therapy is an effective for idiopathic male infertility, but we need to consider that the sudden and marked elevation of serum testosterone level by this therapy might affect male accessory sex organs such as the prostatic gland which shows androgen dependency later in life.

PMID: 3140618 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
 
It screws with my emotions, seriously, I can not tolerate Clomid


Roid rage I enjoy, Clomid makes me or I should say puts me into a state of emotional turmoil,


Best way to describe it, is I feel like a 6 year old little girl.


I know this is accurate I have 4 daughters.



I prefer hcg, aifm


Then I don’t watch I love Flicka and cry when the commercials come on.




Also if you read the small print on the bottle of Clomid


Very few people even Ultra and Macro don’t know this


But it is a fact that Clomid is made by Satan himself just to screw with juicers.

Seriously
 
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