CLOMID...after 1 or 2 or 3 weeks??

[mrt]

I know this has been talked about a lot there seems to be some confusion (at least for me) on when exactly to start after a Sus cycle. Many people on this or other boards claim that after a cycle of 8 weeks start using your Clomid at week 9. Some good AS sites and books also suggest this way. There are also many other people who say wait for 3 weeks so the Sus looses its effect in the body.

This sounds like a good idea but what happens with different doses 250mg/week, 500mg/week, and more? Start clomid later or earlier?

And what happens if you have other AS in the cycle, like D-bol, Deca, Anavar, Primo?

Is there any formula for this or just some standart procedures?

 

[lawnsaver]

1 week after orals and fast acting injectables, 2 weeks after most single ester tests, eq, primo, 3 weeks after sus, omna, deca.

 

[Growing Pains]

I am new to this board and fear I may start sounding like a broken record.

The best way is to have your hormonal levels tested. It is also the best way to tell if you are back "online". Alot of guys will tell you to run the clo for 2 weeks at 100 day week one, 50 mg day week two. Others have their own formula. Having your testo levels checked at a lab is the only sure way.

The new Endoscreen tests can take the guesswork out of getting results.

I know E2, Macrophage and others know about this.

 

[Intramuscular]

If you're unsure, just start Clomid right after your cycle and continue for a few weeks. Front load it. It's cheap as hell, too bad your nuts will be the size of hot-air-balloons. I doubt your girlfriend would be too fond of the mood swings either....

 

[Weam]

depends on the ester
here's an example
Enanthate, Cypionate as with Primoteston, Primobolan, Depo-testosterone etc. you should wait at least 14days
Decanoate as with Sustanon, Deca-durabolin at least 17days
and so on, look at the half-life of the ester and multiply it by 3

 

[mrt]

Now I hear something called Clomid front loading Thats new.

Lawnsaver,

Thanx for the AS classification. What happens if you have an oral and Sus combo you go longer acting drug and start after 3 weeks and what about doses, do they make any difference?

 

[lawnsaver]

Always follow the longest acting ester. The orals will be out of your system fast, but the sus/omna/deca will be there for 4 weeks. The levels will be low enough after 3 weeks to start the clomid.

Never start clomid right after gear! YOu will be wasting it. Also you can build a tolerance to it.

 

[panerai]

It depends on the doses you are using. It's different for 1250mg/week of Sustanon and 250mg/week. Knowing half life of steroid, just count when your body is reterning to baseline and that's when you can start Clomid. But, if you make mistake and start a little earlier or a little later, it's not really such a big deal, like some of the guys say....practically, no difference. More important is- not to stop Clomid therapy too early....

 

[Weam]

Good point Panerai

 

[Riker29]

Many guys blow their gains by starting Clomid TOO early.

They start Clomid, which is trying to tell the bidy :kickj in the natural Test production". Meanwhile, their is still a lot of Test in their system from their last injections ..... so their body goes ....

"Hm, this stuff (clomid) is trying to start up natural Test .. ok .... but wait .... I have a LOT of Test running around in the system here ....."

and the natural Test is NOT kicked back on rapidly.

The result, in many cases, is that their natural Test actually takes LONGER to kick in (becuase the initial part of the clomid-therapy-time, if not ALL of it .. is when their AS-Test os still at high levels, and the clomid ends up doing nothing) and then they crash. Hard. And it takes a LONG while for natural Test to kick in ... and they gains go bye-bye.