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since it's the season I've played my two xmas CDs,which are mostly classical musically based.
drinking gin,I'm thinking I appreciate classical music
but I don't know where to start
any help here?
got 3 CDs of Genesis,Pink Floyd and the Rolling Stones songs done classically
and they appeal to me as well
I'm gettin' old
 
4everhung said:
tanqueray and egg nog
isnt that a snoop song? special holiday edition foshizle.













i dont even know what foshizle means...i think it means for sure or definitely
 
PERFECTWORLD said:
lol...muzak...pink would roll over in his grave
when I get really drunk I have a DVD of Pink Floyd at Pompeii
circa '71
 
Vivaldi's The Four Seasons is good. Wagner is good. His music is darker.

I'm certianly no authority on classical music though. I listen to it occasionally. Just go purchase yourself some CD's. Classical music is often very cheap in comparison to mainstream music.
 
Ludwig Van Beethoven
John Williams
 
djufo said:
Ludwig Van Beethoven
John Williams
John who?
and Ludwig needs to be narrowed down
is there a Beethoven "greatest hits"?
 
BradG said:
Vivaldi's The Four Seasons is good. Wagner is good. His music is darker.

I'm certianly no authority on classical music though. I listen to it occasionally. Just go purchase yourself some CD's. Classical music is often very cheap in comparison to mainstream music.
K,my plan is to go to amazon and search Vagner
then on the side they'll have these lists of people's selection's for classical music
or a could get the complete Ali G show,second season
 
apparently classical music stimulates a different part of the brain, and you should listen to it now and again

i like some classical scores, as well as some contemporary stuff that integrates a baseline...lots of movie soundtracks etc do this. the theme of the first badboys movie is a nice example

youre still getting old though, its probably why you have such warped views on the war in iraq ;)
 
GoldenDelicious said:
apparently classical music stimulates a different part of the brain, and you should listen to it now and again

i like some classical scores, as well as some contemporary stuff that integrates a baseline...lots of movie soundtracks etc do this. the theme of the first badboys movie is a nice example

youre still getting old though, its probably why you have such warped views on the war in iraq ;)
balh,blah,"scores",balh,blah
no real help
at the moment I'm dividing my time betw this post
and a military strategy game betw the Germans and Russians in late '44
it's snowing and I have about 60 Panthers,Mark IVs,Jagdpanzer IVs and a 2 companies of Stugs
against my 60 the Russians have about 260 bad ass tanks(Russian armor doesn't get credit historically in the west)
I need some dark Vagner
if I can't stop the Russian armor onslaught,their infantry(which significantly outnumbers my landsers)willoverwhelm the whermacht
 
Mahler is the bomb...

Shoot for works composed in the Late Romantic Period, anything earlier is usually pretty dry. Well, at least for my tastes...

-Ingram
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
I started listening to classical before I was a teenager.
your mom must have been one of those subscribers to the theory that playing classical music to the unborn fetus,would improve it's intellect
I had a pregnant fiancee' who bought one of them
apparently in my mind to compensate for her "shortfall"
interestingly,while hunting for my xmas CDs I came across said CD
chuckled again
 
4everhung said:
balh,blah,"scores",balh,blah
no real help
at the moment I'm dividing my time betw this post
and a military strategy game betw the Germans and Russians in late '44
it's snowing and I have about 60 Panthers,Mark IVs,Jagdpanzer IVs and a 2 companies of Stugs
against my 60 the Russians have about 260 bad ass tanks(Russian armor doesn't get credit historically in the west)
I need some dark Vagner
if I can't stop the Russian armor onslaught,their infantry(which significantly outnumbers my landsers)willoverwhelm the whermacht


Ha ha ha ha ha..... I guess my suggestion was appropriate. Perfect fit. Wagner did a lot of conqest/battle type music.
 
PERFECTWORLD said:
isnt that a snoop song? special holiday edition foshizle.













i dont even know what foshizle means...i think it means for sure or definitely
you edited that bitch
you have a "window" in which you can edit a post and it won't show as you having done so
you did
 
4everhung said:
your mom must have been one of those subscribers to the theory that playing classical music to the unborn fetus,would improve it's intellect
I had a pregnant fiancee' who bought one of them
apparently in my mind to compensate for her "shortfall"
interestingly,while hunting for my xmas CDs I came across said CD
chuckled again
Nah, My mom is/was a fucking pig...
I picked it up on my own from movie soundtracks. It does lower my blood pressure. Beethoven will always be my fav.
 
My favorite composer is Mozart

lol speaking of Wehrmacht and WW2, I think Richard Wagner was one of Hitler's favorite composers.

I wonder what would have happened if they didn't blow up Wehrmacht


John Williams = Star Wars/Indiana Jones?

Apparently its Mozarts Allegro Assai KV88 that makes you smarter
 
Well it has to do with the German pride nationalistic stuff...plus Wagner's music is pretty overpowering. I think its the music they'd play when they'd send Jews to their death.

Although...didn't Wagner compose the wedding march too ;)?
 
The Red Dragon said:
I wonder what would have happened if they didn't blow up Wehrmacht
this I don't understand
from what I do understand is that 30s Germany was the cultural "kingpin" in Europe at the time
I have a book
"Hitler's Willing Executioners",Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust
authored by Daniel Jonah Goldhagen
500+ pages
haven't read it
Ali G or Goldhagen
both Jewish
 
The Red Dragon said:
Well it has to do with the German pride nationalistic stuff...plus Wagner's music is pretty overpowering. I think its the music they'd play when they'd send Jews to their death.

Although...didn't Wagner compose the wedding march too ;)?
for the most part they used Jews and others for forced labor
when it came down to feeding troops at the front or feeding labor
 
The Red Dragon said:
I think its the music they'd play when they'd send Jews to their death.

Although...didn't Wagner compose the wedding march too ;)?

I hadn't heard that. That's terrible! I hope it isn't true. And, yes, Wagner also composed the wedding march.
 
The Red Dragon said:
oh sorry, I thought there was a heavy water plant named Wehrmacht, I must have confused it with something else.
Vemork Heavy Water Plant - 1942-44

* Blood and Water: Sabotaging Hitler’s Bomb by Dan Kurzman. Henry Holt and Company, Inc., 115 West 18th Street, New York City 10011, 1997, 274 pages, $27.50.
* Skis Against the Atom: The Exciting, First Hand Account of Heroism and Daring Sabotage During the Nazi Occupation of Norway by Knut Haukelid
* Assault In Norway: Sabotaging the Nazi Nuclear Program by Thomas Gallagher



In 1911, the Vemork hydroelectric station in Rjukan started exploiting the tremendous power in the waters that flow from the mighty Hardangervidda down into the narrow Vestfjord valley. Norsk Hydro, Norway´s great industrial adventure, was born here, among the perilous cliffs and deep gorges.

Late in 1938, Lise Meitner, Otto Hahn and Fritz Strassman discovered the phenomenon of atomic fission. Physicists everywhere realized that if chain reactions could be tamed, fission could lead to a promising new source of power. What was needed was a substance that could "moderate" the energy of neutrons emitted in radioactive decay, so that they could be captured by other fissionable nuclei. Heavy water was a prime candidate for the job.

Allied forces were determined to stop Nazi Germany from developing the atomic bomb. Of two materials to control a nuclear reaction -— pure graphite and heavy water -- the Germans chose heavy water because of a mathematical error in calcuoting the use of graphite. The German nuclear research community relied on a supply of deuterium oxide [heavy water] from the Norwegian Norsk Hydro plant, the only commercial production facility. This plant in Vemork, Norway was the world's major source of heavy water in the early 1940s. In the United States, Heavy water was used as a coolant and moderator in nuclear materials production reactors at the Savannah River Site.

Concentrating heavy water requires enormous amounts of electricity. In the 1930s, one of the few places in the world with power to spare was the Vemork plant of Norway's Norsk Hydro-Elektrisk, which had harnessed a 144-meter-high waterfall to produce fertilizers. The heavy water was generated as a by-product of producing fertilizer. Norsk Hydro supplied the world's scientific community with heavy water only as a sideline. In late 1939, the Germans began ordering heavy water in very large quantities, Norsk Hydro management suspected "some kind of deviltry."

With the cooperation of Norsk Hydro, the French managed to spirit the company's entire stock of heavy water, some 185 kilograms, out of the country under the noses of watchful German agents.

Germany captured Norway and the plant in May 1940. The Allies set out to destroy Vemork, a story familiar from the 1965 Hollywood film, Heroes of Telemark, starring Kirk Douglas and Richard Harris. The struggle for control of the heavy water plant took more than two years, involved four assaults and claimed 92 lives.

* On October 18, 1942, an advance party of four Norwegian SOE commandos -- Code-named "Grouse" -- were dropped in Norway on the Hardanger Plateau on a reconnaissance mission of the plant.
* In November 1942 the military campaign began with a disastrous British commando raid into Norway. Operation Freshman, mounted by Special Operations Executive (SOE), failed when thirty four Royal Engineers of the 1st British Airborne Division, together with the crews of two gliders and one bomber, died when their craft crashed into mountains during poor visibility. Survivors were interrogated, tortured, and executed by the Germans.
* On 28 February 1943 a second all-Norwegian commando raid -- Operation Gunnerside -- destroyed the Rjukan electrolysis plant, with the loss of 500kg of heavy water. The plant was, however, quickly repaired.
* On 16 November 1943 the American attempt to destroy the plant employed a total of 388 B-17 and B-24 bombers from Eighth Air Force. The raid resulted in considerable loss of civilian life but minimal damage the electrolysis building. While this attack did little damage it convinced the Germans to abandon the plant and move remaining stocks and critical components to Germany in 1944.
* On 20 February 1944 a final successful attack by saboteurs and members of the Norwegian resistance interdicted the remaining supply of heavy water by sinking the ferry D/F"HYDRO" taking a shipment to Germany.

The disassembled factory was later found in southern Germany during the closing stages of the war by members of Operation Alsos.
 
The Red Dragon said:
Well it has to do with the German pride nationalistic stuff...
not in any way different than US "pride nationalistic stuff"
 
Classical music is completely different than popular, obviously. A lot of times it is lumped into one big genre, even though the classical sound is actually a wide variety, ranging from Baroque style of Bach up to the Modern style of Stravinski. Beethoven was truly classical, as was Mozart, but it depends a lot on what type of music you want to listen to: symphonies, piano concertos, solo piano; there is even classical guitar music.

I'd recommend looking online at an mp3 site or just buying a cd that contains the best of any of the following:

Beethoven: Symphonies no. 3,5 & 9
Piano Sonata opus 27 no. 2 Moonlight sonata
opus 13 no.8 pathetique sonata

Mozart: Eine Kleine Nacht Musik no.13 k:525
Symphony no. 40 k:550

Chopin: best of.

Rachmaninoff: best of-piano concertos, preludes.

Leo Kotke: his "one guitar, no vocals" cd is good.

It all depends on what you'd like to hear, actually.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Classical music is completely different than popular, obviously. A lot of times it is lumped into one big genre, even though the classical sound is actually a wide variety, ranging from Baroque style of Bach up to the Modern style of Stravinski. Beethoven was truly classical, as was Mozart, but it depends a lot on what type of music you want to listen to: symphonies, piano concertos, solo piano; there is even classical guitar music.

I'd recommend looking online at an mp3 site or just buying a cd that contains the best of any of the following:

Beethoven: Symphonies no. 3,5 & 9
Piano Sonata opus 27 no. 2 Moonlight sonata
opus 13 no.8 pathetique sonata

Mozart: Eine Kleine Nacht Musik no.13 k:525
Symphony no. 40 k:550

Chopin: best of.

Rachmaninoff: best of-piano concertos, preludes.

Leo Kotke: his "one guitar, no vocals" cd is good.

It all depends on what you'd like to hear, actually.
thank you,this was the type of answer i was searching for
I had to get off on a Germanic bent to throw off the "none-to-serious"
 
OK now the thing with classical is that the music is pretty damn old (unless you wanna negotiate the minefield that is contemporary classical...) so that means loads of different interpretations.

Hence you need to have a good guide to different conductors and orchestras... I can give you a rough guide here but you should really invest in a Penguin guide .
Everything I mention here would be considered highlights from a basic collection.

Starting points - Beethoven symphonies - Carlos Kleiber is absolutely unparallelled on these. Most people go nuts for the 5th but Im kinda fond of the 9th.

Tchaikovsky and Bruch violin concertos - Kyung Wha Cheung - these are very bright compositions and this young lady burns through them like a banshee on speed.

Schubert Melos Ensemble - Octet in F major (probably bundled with the wonderful "Trout Quintet")

Violin Concertos by Sarasate (Spanish) - Im sorry but I forget the conductor here...

I'm also very partial to classical guitar - you're probably familiar with the theme from the Deerhunter - otherwise known as Cavatina... the name to look for here is "Segovia" but there are others.

I also like Scott Joplin's piano rag compositions - especially "Solace" - get recordings by Johus Rifkin - man's a genius.

There's volumes to write but I haven't been listening too much - classical music takes a lot of work but it ages far far better than other genres...it's also in contrast to modern music far far superior live as opposed to recorded (even if you have $20000 to spend on high end equipment).
 
4everhung said:
got 3 CDs of Genesis,Pink Floyd and the Rolling Stones songs done classically
and they appeal to me as well
I'm gettin' old

good god no
 
4everhung said:
John who?
and Ludwig needs to be narrowed down
is there a Beethoven "greatest hits"?

Don't get a "greatest hits" classical CD.

You wanna explore Beethoven? He wrote nine Symphonies. I suggest starting with #6, it's probably the most accessible for a beginner. Another couple of good choices for a novice listener would be Rachmaninoff's "Symphonic Dances" and Bartok's "Concerto for Orchestra."
 
Mr. dB said:
Don't get a "greatest hits" classical CD.

You wanna explore Beethoven? He wrote nine Symphonies. I suggest starting with #6, it's probably the most accessible for a beginner. Another couple of good choices for a novice listener would be Rachmaninoff's "Symphonic Dances" and Bartok's "Concerto for Orchestra."


There's a lot more to Beethoven than just his symphonies. He wrote dozens of sonatas, a few operas, and concertos. It all depends on how much time you want to spend listening for the best stuff, hence the "best of" suggestion for those who are part time classical enthusiasts.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
There's a lot more to Beethoven than just his symphonies. He wrote dozens of sonatas, a few operas, and concertos. It all depends on how much time you want to spend listening for the best stuff, hence the "best of" suggestion for those who are part time classical enthusiasts.

I was just suggesting a place to start.
 
Mr. dB said:
Don't get a "greatest hits" classical CD.

You wanna explore Beethoven? He wrote nine Symphonies. I suggest starting with #6, it's probably the most accessible for a beginner. Another couple of good choices for a novice listener would be Rachmaninoff's "Symphonic Dances" and Bartok's "Concerto for Orchestra."
that was a joke
with an ID such as Mr. dB
your recommendations carry weight
as well as Mandinks'
hansel too,"hansel" just sounds old European
 
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