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MARK67

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hey bros, whats up?i was wondering if im the only one who has this particular issue. when i train lats, it seems the only exersize that gives me that ''ive been worked'' feeling the next day are chins, ive done countless barbell rows, cable, dumbell. i know the soreness isnt requisite for growth, but paticularly my lats, i seem to only get a tremendous pump when i do my chins followd by heavy negatives then continue with my rows and deads.yesterday i decided to switch things up, no chins -just barbell rows ,cable rows and pulldowns. today i really dont feel the soreness. can i have your take on this, maybe my body just responds well to chins? just wondering . thanks guys and have a good one!
 
MARK67 said:
i know the soreness isnt requisite for growth

why do you want to get a pump though? anyway, i'm never sore anymore but when i used to rely on soreness as 'progressing' my back was the hardest part to get sore. i didn't try pullups at the time since i was too fat to pull myself up though..
 
MARK67 said:
hey bros, whats up?i was wondering if im the only one who has this particular issue. when i train lats, it seems the only exersize that gives me that ''ive been worked'' feeling the next day are chins, ive done countless barbell rows, cable, dumbell. i know the soreness isnt requisite for growth, but paticularly my lats, i seem to only get a tremendous pump when i do my chins followd by heavy negatives then continue with my rows and deads.yesterday i decided to switch things up, no chins -just barbell rows ,cable rows and pulldowns. today i really dont feel the soreness. can i have your take on this, maybe my body just responds well to chins? just wondering . thanks guys and have a good one!

Hey bro, your problem isnt uncommon. Many people have trouble getting a good lat pump. The problem stems from your biceps not being strong enough to allow your back to get a good pump. That's not a knock on you, it's true for most people. The best exercise I've found for lats is called SB pinches. It's a modification of the lat pull down but requires much more weight. Rather than pull the bar all the way down you simply tighten your lats (concentrate on the lat) and pinch your shoulder blades together. The movement is only a couple of inches. Hold it itight at the bottom for a couple of seconds and return slowly. Try it, I guarantee you will feel the burn. Good luck with your workouts bro! :coffee:
 
marvelous54 said:
Hey bro, your problem isnt uncommon. Many people have trouble getting a good lat pump. The problem stems from your biceps not being strong enough to allow your back to get a good pump. That's not a knock on you, it's true for most people. The best exercise I've found for lats is called SB pinches. It's a modification of the lat pull down but requires much more weight. Rather than pull the bar all the way down you simply tighten your lats (concentrate on the lat) and pinch your shoulder blades together. The movement is only a couple of inches. Hold it itight at the bottom for a couple of seconds and return slowly. Try it, I guarantee you will feel the burn. Good luck with your workouts bro! :coffee:

marvelous said it. lat pinches are killer!! and they work........
 
hey guys ill try the sb pinches,i forgot to mention, which is in line with what marvelous 54 said, my lats are my strongest, and best, bodypart. whearas, my arme though not small are much weaker. when i ran the 5x5 my rows 5x305 and curls 5x120. you were dead on. my biceps are alot weaker.in the process of increasing their strenth now,thanks ill let you know next week how the pinches worked for me.thanks and take care bros!
 
Assertive Guy said:
Google and youtube have no vids for this. Do you have any links??

Hey Ass. Guy, I don't have any links but if you can imagine sitting at down for lat pulls and rather going than going through the full motion imagine pinching a quarter between your shoulder blades. Do this while concentrating on the lat muscles and eliminate as mush arm bend (bicep use) as possible! :coffee:
 
I used to find that my biceps held back my pull-ups. I never really did any direct bicep work, figuring that they were being worked well by deads, rows, pull-ups etc.

By including 2-3 sets of reverse curls at the end of my pulling workout I really improved bicep strength and now when I do pull-ups I feel like the arms are just there to connect my lats to the bar :) I can now pull me+90lbs for a double at 170lb bodyweight.

Also, I find that varying grip is a nice way to activate the lats - I start with a wide overhand grip, then medium overhand, narro overhand, underhand and then neutral (i.e. 5 sets of 5-8 reps at the same weight but with the grip making the sets 'easier' as I fatigue).

I love pull-ups!

Mark
 
in answer to solarclimax, no. my goal is growth!years of lifting,on and off unfortunatly, ive almost never not done pull-ups.only when i did 5x5, no pullups were involved.ive noticed my body responds best to medium-light heavy weights where a pump is involved.it may not be my place to say but all our bodys respond differently,i think i state the obvious here. the 5x5 delivered what it promised, i did get stronger,and heavier. almost no growth except my gut and neck.wasnt for me though. i am fairly strong, but i can gauge how much effort i put into my workouts by my soreness(usually last a day or two).for the record though, the power shrugs are staying with me, madcow was dead on , my traps are growing like never before! thanks bros, take it easy.
 
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