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China??

Sorry to burst your bubble on this, but China has the world's fourth largest economy (measured by GDP); U.S., Japan, and Germany are the top three (in that order). #5 is UK.

Also, you say Russia relies on aid from the west and has no clout, then say China, US, UK, & France have veto power in the UN (which they do) to prove your point that China has a lot more clout than Russia. Well, Russia has veto power as well; they are the fifth country you didn't mention, so I don't even know why you mentioned it at all. And the part about China going to exceed the US as the worlds superpower made me laugh too. And the part about their army, yea, their army might be massive, but the US's is MUCH more advanced (but what it comes down to in the end is that the U.S. and China both have nuclear ICBM's so it really doesn't matter whose army is bigger or more advanced cuz the whole world would be fucked if they went to war against one another regardless - it's a lose-lose).

I'm sorry, but that was just rediculous to post that.

chilledandy said:
Russia have very little clout with regards to anything as their economy is tiny. They rely on aid from the West so have to do as they are requested but China has just as much power as the US. They are one of five Countries including the US, UK and France that have the power of VETO on the UN Security Council, they have the largest economy in the world, have nuclear capabilities, and will soon exceede the US as the worlds super power. Their Army is massive by comparison to the US.
 
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bbkingpin said:
You are creating red herrings to prove your point. I did not say China takes orders from USA on everything. But they bargain on issues left and right, ex: trademark copyright and piracy issues. I am telling you that the USA can use the carrot and stick method with any country to get what they want. If they want the Russians to fuck the Iranians, they have plenty to offer. And we're talking the serious shit. Gen Sci is not the Chinese government, and China government cares more about their relationship ("most favored trade partner status") with USA than they care about GH to USA individuals for non-medical reasons. But you are the fucking genius obviously. Tell me. What's your highest level of education, what do you do for a living, and who is the most important person (ex: elected official) you've had a lengthy conversation with?


So, post up your valuable information proving the US does inspections in China regarding steroids and other such legal matters in China that may interest the Western World, lol. Communist China would laugh at USA inspections and anything related to it!
 
lil-swole said:
Sorry to burst your bubble on this, but China has the world's fourth largest economy (measured by GDP); U.S., Japan, and Germany are the top three (in that order). #5 is UK.

Also, you say Russia relies on aid from the west and has no clout, then say China, US, UK, & France have veto power in the UN (which they do) to prove your point that China has a lot more clout than Russia. Well, Russia has veto power as well; they are the fifth country you didn't mention, so I don't even know why you mentioned it at all. And the part about China going to exceed the US as the worlds superpower made me laugh too. And the part about their army, yea, their army might be massive, but the US's is MUCH more advanced (but what it comes down to in the end is that the U.S. and China both have nuclear ICBM's so it really doesn't matter whose army is bigger or more advanced cuz the whole world would be fucked if they went to war against one another regardless - it's a lose-lose).

I'm sorry, but that was just rediculous to post that.

The reason i posted the bit about Russia was in response to the following comment about how Russia bow to US pressure:
"If they want the Russians to fuck the Iranians, they have plenty to offer"
The reason I mention the VETO power had nothing to do with the comment about Russia, I was merely pointing out that China are a global super power on a parallel with the US and not likely to be subservient as previous posts had implied. The same with regards to their Army and nuclear capabilities, so it was far from being a ridiculous thing to post.
As for the size of their economy, the Chinese are the 2nd largest by their purchasing power parity, not the first which I did get wrong. Their PPP is another effective means of measuring an economy so I don't think you've burst anyones bubble.
I hardly see how my post was ridiculous, maybe to a typical Yank who thinks that the US is the entire world, i don't know. Is that it? Did I hurt your "I'm an American and we kick ass" sensibilities?
 
I'm going to waste my time arguing with a moron who will never admit the obvious???

missionpossible said:
So, post up your valuable information proving the US does inspections in China regarding steroids and other such legal matters in China that may interest the Western World, lol. Communist China would laugh at USA inspections and anything related to it!
 
So, let's bring the political discourse to a minimum.

FACT: SOMETHING has the chinese sources scared that they are going to get busted. They haven't ever been afraid like this before, to my knowledge.

FACT: Some powder guys have quit sending to the USA. Another has been confirmed busted (albeit for his own stupidity in making a schedule I drug)

FACT: The BLACK MARKET raw hormone business does not make the chinese government SOOOOO much money that they wouldn't consider making an example out of it to keep the USA and rest of world happy.

FACT: Politics annoy me, so let's keep the talk to drugs and drug dealers. :)
 
bbkingpin said:
Believe it, USA carries a lot of clout. More than any other nation in the world. If they want to stop Russia from shipping uranium to Iran and freezing funds of Iranians in other countries, they can handle GenSci with one eye closed and one arm tied behind their back. Don't be stupid. The USA government stopped Mexico from passing a personal possession law with little pressure. Don't be stupid! The USA is the most powerful government in the world and they have ways of getting their way because they have so much leverage and power that the other countries will "play ball" or "go along."

Yup, China depends on US market (if we ever stopped buying their stuff, China grinds to a halt. Also, like Saudis they depend on US to invest their money.

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lil-swole said:
Sorry to burst your bubble on this, but China has the world's fourth largest economy (measured by GDP); U.S., Japan, and Germany are the top three (in that order). #5 is UK.
Sorry to burst your bubble. This is speculation. Due to the currency controls/deflation, this GDP # is a guess, at best due to their bogus currency valuations.
 
chilledandy said:
The reason i posted the bit about Russia was in response to the following comment about how Russia bow to US pressure:
"If they want the Russians to fuck the Iranians, they have plenty to offer"
The reason I mention the VETO power had nothing to do with the comment about Russia, I was merely pointing out that China are a global super power on a parallel with the US and not likely to be subservient as previous posts had implied. The same with regards to their Army and nuclear capabilities, so it was far from being a ridiculous thing to post.
As for the size of their economy, the Chinese are the 2nd largest by their purchasing power parity, not the first which I did get wrong. Their PPP is another effective means of measuring an economy so I don't think you've burst anyones bubble.
I hardly see how my post was ridiculous, maybe to a typical Yank who thinks that the US is the entire world, i don't know. Is that it? Did I hurt your "I'm an American and we kick ass" sensibilities?
I agree with your post and Iam a Yank as wel but as far as "We are Americans and we kick ass" Well actually we do. We are sleeping now I admit but we all know what happens when we are pissed off...Wars are won....real wars not political ones like the Iraq war. I mean global changing wars. off my soap box now.

Quad

P.S. BTW, Francis Scott Key was a distant relative so.......Maybe thats where that came from!
 
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