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China tells U.S. "good old days" of borrowing are over

This is most definitely true.

They need free of us, but not until they can run on their own steam. Between now and then, we are a partner of convenience.

China is addicted to a strategy of export-led growth, which requires that it keep its goods cheap. This means keeping its currency undervalued. That's why it buys dollars.

And of course, if China were to stop buying Treasuries, the value of the Yuan would rise, Chinese exports would become more expensive and employment in China would fall.
 
That's wayyyyyyy over his head, buddy.

Best rephrase it based on the amount of leather jackets and suede boots you once saw a small group of people wearing during a brief flight connection on your way to Hong Kong.
 
China is addicted to a strategy of export-led growth, which requires that it keep its goods cheap. This means keeping its currency undervalued. That's why it buys dollars.

And of course, if China were to stop buying Treasuries, the value of the Yuan would rise, Chinese exports would become more expensive and employment in China would fall.

This is true. That's why they are working so hard to run off their own demand. It will take time, but it is growing.
 
It's ok, neither is momkey-boy stock picker.

so finance guys are now monkey stock pickers? don't get me wrong i have no love lost for the finance industry but i sense a distinct imperative on your part to discredit 75th's arguments not by actually going after what he's saying but devaluing his profession....why?

75th, you a series 7?
 
so finance guys are now monkey stock pickers? don't get me wrong i have no love lost for the finance industry but i sense a distinct imperative on your part to discredit 75th's arguments not by actually going after what he's saying but devaluing his profession....why?

75th, you a series 7?

:Popcorn:
 
China is facing a major inflation problem as they try to prop up the dollar to remain an exporter.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904006104576504530862536132.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Last week China allowed the value of the yuan to rise against the dollar by 0.8%, which may not sound like much until one considers that the currency's total appreciation so far this year is 3.1%. The move created speculation that Beijing is strengthening its currency to fight inflation, which hit a new three-year high of 6.5% in July and has authorities worried about social stability.

More figures emerged last week to support this inflation-fighting theory: In July, bank lending slowed dramatically, and growth in the M2 money supply is at a six-year low. Beijing is using direct control over the banks, rather than interest rates, to curtail lending. But many doubt it can keep such strong measures going for long, since giant state-owned enterprises and small private firms alike are screaming for credit. With inflation still rising and the economy slowing, there are fears of a hard landing.

So China's leaders may see a stronger yuan as the easiest way to fight inflation. There is irony here, since they have long resisted outside pressure to take precisely this path. Now they could end up placating U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer and other protectionists in Washington. That should be a strong clue that revaluation is a bad idea.

The real solution to rising inflation and slowing growth is more efficient use of capital, which in China's case means liberalizing the banking system. Currently the state sets a low floor on deposit interest rates, so that households are deprived of income from their savings, and it sets a ceiling on lending rates so that the state-owned banks make a healthy margin whomever they lend to.

For the last two years the government has ordered the banks to expand lending to the state-owned enterprises to keep growth going after the global financial crisis. Now the bankers are being told to rein in credit, and they naturally choose the safe option, lending to those same enterprises to keep them afloat. While private entrepreneurs have to close down or borrow from loan sharks at usurious rates, future bad loans continue to pile up at the banks.

Market-oriented lending would allow the government to better regulate the economy using interest rates, as it could fight inflation without cutting off credit to the most productive enterprises. Some at the central bank know that this is the way forward. Statistics chief Sheng Songcheng published an article last Monday that advocates relaxing the restrictions on deposit and lending rates.

Competition among banks to fund the best companies would give private firms access to capital and impose discipline on the state sector, and that would create more new jobs and raise productivity. Inflation would be less of a concern as it would reflect higher real wages. And as prices rose, China's trade surplus would tend to fall.

So China doesn't need currency revaluation to resolve the imbalances that have led to its massive trade surplus, which surged again last month, as well as the accumulation of a staggering $3.2 trillion in reserves. Letting the yuan appreciate may look like the easy way out. But currency stability has been one of the keys to China integrating with the global economy. Embarking on the next round of market reform will bring more lasting value to the yuan.
 
so finance guys are now monkey stock pickers? don't get me wrong i have no love lost for the finance industry but i sense a distinct imperative on your part to discredit 75th's arguments not by actually going after what he's saying but devaluing his profession....why?

75th, you a series 7?


Red, it's like you're not familiar with plunkey at all. You know this is his standard M.O. No credible argument or any facts to back it up, so he dodges the question and changes directions. Were all still waiting for him to reveal this extensive Chinese middle class, represented only by a group of Chinese businessmen that bought some xerox machines off of him.

But yes, I have my 7. And my 24. And my CFP. And I'm a Level 2 CFA. I've never been a stock picker, but per the usual we can't let facts get in the way of plunks argument can we? ;)
 
so finance guys are now monkey stock pickers? don't get me wrong i have no love lost for the finance industry but i sense a distinct imperative on your part to discredit 75th's arguments not by actually going after what he's saying but devaluing his profession....why?

75th, you a series 7?

Perhaps you could use this thread to enlighten us all how wonderful the US financial industry actually is. Aren't these noble businessmen serving a vital role insuring the efficient placement of capital and liquidity of markets?

And yes, "General Securities Representative" = "Monkey Boy Stock Picker". Different name, but he'll still get parked outside my office like all the others do.
 
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