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Chicken calves - F%$!

jonny jacked

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well, I've just about had it with my calves. I could cut them off right about now. I just cant get them to grow.
I have tried what seems like everything to get them to catch up to my upper half.
above the waist, I great. but with my impressive upper body, my legs lag behind in comparrison.
Id like to hear what what works for the rest of you.
Now as much as I value the advice from those of you with naturally big legs (and I hate all of you), unfortunetely for me, what works for you, might not for me.
I need to hear from those of you who started with skinny little calves like me, and how you made them impressive slabs of beef.
karma for all who help!
 
Its funny bro because i was just about to post something like this regarding myself... Alot of it has to do with genetics. I have long legs from the knee down to the foot and, shitty enough, my calves are placed at the very top. So there is alot of 'extra' length starting under my calf muscle all the way down to my foot..

Mine has got me so fucked up in the head that I don't even want to wear shorts. I feel like i'm getting judged and it really fuckin blows.. I've started to eat a really high protien diet along with other clean whole nutritious foods to cut, and I know its hard to gain alot of muscle while cutting.. But i'm starting to think that I don't need to be 250lbs at 20% bodyfat.. My calves are genetically skinny so I mine as well lean down as much as possible, of course not at the expense of losing muscle.

I've started jogging/walking on a steep incline on the treadmill and I have found that it really shocks and burns my calves which is something that I just might need.

Good luck to you bro. I hope you find out how to make them sons of bitches grow..
 
Don't feel bad bro's!! Arnold did this pose because he felt his calves were weak.

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He like all of us has long legs and he is really long from knee to ankle. But, I think it makes the calf muscle look better to have thinner ankles.

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I like what I read elsewhere here that you could do one legged calf raises holding dumbells.

Do 4 or 5 sets of 12 doing left right left right, ect. with no rest. Do that M,W,F
 
Dude however bad your calves are I can guarantee they aren't as bad as mine, my calves at there biggest point are only 17" (My arms are about identical in size) and I can fit my hand around my ankles. So yeah...
 
Eight Secrets to Building Bigger Calves


Practical, effective ways to develop this stubborn muscle group


by Charles Poliquin



It's easy to become motivated to train the muscles in your chest, shoulders and arms. In just about everything you wear, and every time you look in the mirror, these muscles are prominently displayed. And if you've worked hard, your friends who haven't seen you for some time will ask, "Hey, have you been working out?" Encouraged by such constant reinforcement, you train these muscle groups even harder and get creative with supersets, giant sets, partials, isometrics - you name it and you'll probably try it to make these muscles grow. But the same attitude and training approach seldom apply to working the calves.



The calves can be easily hidden with pants; and if you've been training your legs hard, your friends will assume that your calves are equally developed. You may even actually start to believe it yourself. But when it's time to get serious and you decide it's time to bring your lower legs up to the proportions of the rest of your body, you become frustrated. Other than a few sets of standing calf raises, and perhaps a few seated ones, you just run into a brick wall in trying to figure out other things to make them grow.



I mention this scenario because I am constantly getting letters from people asking for help in making their calves grow - in fact, almost as many letters as I get from those who want to add another inch to the biceps! If this sounds like you, let me save you some time and give you eight surefire tips to make your calves grow. And yes, the calf muscles can grow!



1. Train the Calves First

Most trainees work the calves at the end of a leg workout. Because training the legs is the most physically and mentally demanding area to train, there is not much enthusiasm, or physical energy for that matter, left for calf work. The effort is just not there, especially if your primary leg exercise is squats. To be able to train the calves harder, it would be better to work them on arm day...but to really jolt them into growth, train them before you do arms! Don't worry, your arms won't shrink by training them second.



2. Use the Appropriate Repetition Bracket

The number of reps you should use in calf work depends on which exercise you are performing. In exercises in which the knee is bent, most of the load is taken by the soleus muscles. The soleus is part of what kinesiologists call the anti-gravity muscles; that is, the muscles that are firing when you are in the standing position.



Muscle biopsies and autopsies have revealed that the soleus is composed of approximately 88 percent slow-twitch muscle fibers, which means they are built for endurance and therefore will respond better to higher reps. As such, performing sets that can be completed in less than 40 seconds won't do much for optimal development of this muscle.



In exercises where the knee is straight, such as donkey calf raises and standing calf raises, the gastrocnemius handles most of the load. The gastrocnemius is composed of approximately 60 percent fast-twitch muscle and responds best to sets that can be completed in approximately 20-40 seconds. Also, perform them first in the workout, when the knees are locked. Working them after bent-leg exercises will create fatigue that will prevent you from activating the higher-threshold motor units contained in the gastrocnemius.



The number of reps you perform for all calf exercises may seem high - it's common, for example, to complete 20 reps of straight-leg calf raises in just 40 seconds. However, consider that the range of motion of calf work is relatively small - it takes a lot longer to perform a full squat than a straight-leg calf raise.



3. Pause at the Bottom Position

This simple trick will do a lot to promote growth in the calf muscles. After you have completed the eccentric (lowering) part of every lift, pause in the bottom position before performing the concentric (lifting) part.



The length of the pause should be one to four seconds, depending on the repetition bracket. The rule is "The higher the reps, the shorter the pause." To give you an idea of how this can work, for sets of 35-50 reps you would pause for only one second at the bottom. For sets of 6-8 reps, the pause should be extended to four seconds.



4. Reduce Lifting Speed

For a change of pace and some additional growth stimulus, aim at taking a full five seconds to lift the weight and a full five seconds to lower it. What this tempo does is reduce the momentum that assists you during the exercise. After six to eight reps at this slow tempo, you will feel a significant buildup of intramuscular tension in the calf muscles.



5. Try Unilateral Training

If you have difficulty feeling the calf muscle when training, you should find yourself in a new growth spurt once you start unilateral calf training. Concentrating your neural drive on a single limb will enable you to maximize the load on the calf muscle. And be creative - there are more options available than you think with unilateral calf training. Try, for example, single-leg calf raises on the standing calf raise machine, or single-leg calf presses on the leg press.



6. Try Calf Raises on the Hack Squat Machine

Because both your body and the calf block are at a 45 degree angle on the hack squat machine, it will be easier mechanically to reach the top portion of the range of motion of this exercise. This change in the resistance curve will alter the resistance pattern of the calf muscles, challenging the nervous system and consequently stimulating the muscles into new growth.



7. Train the Muscles Involved in Dorsi-Flexion

For maximum lower leg development, you must train all areas of the lower leg. This includes the muscles on the front of the calf. When you perform these exercises, be sure to pause in the bottom position for a two-second count. Also, it's important to stretch the gastrocnemius and soleus muscles between every set of tibialis anterior work. Because the calf muscles are rather resilient to stretch, I would use the standing calf machine to provide enough load to stretch the calf.
 
They will grow for sure w this and I also think that you should work them out barefoot w anti slip socks and twice a week after a month into serious training, make sure u have a nice warm up w light stretching and by the way after finishing throw in a few heavy sets of ham curls if u can bare the pain and pump.
 
i must be an exception to the rule, i have great calves but lack in other areas most people grow easily. I have a great calve routine, so that helps
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Thanks saibota, any person can always use some information from charles poloquin..

I'll be putting these 8 tips to use on monday and let you bro's know how it goes with pics, measurements, etc...

As for the OP, good luck! There are some great bro's and alot of information here on ef... peace.
 
I notice that when I start running a few times a week my claves swell up to a nice size.
But Ive been told a few years a go i run on my toes :S
Try this but it might be bad, Im fine though
 
Claves a re a weird muscle group in that they often come with maturation. Seems like a few people get genetically blessed at an early age, however for most, their personal best calf development comes in their 30's. I used to hit my claves all the time and was never really satisfied with them in my teens and early twenties. Thought I was really unlucky because my dad had always had much better looking calves from sitting behind a desk. But look around, plenty of older guys seem to have rock hard looking calves - better than any other part of their physiques! Now I'm a bit older and just doing 5x5 routine and oly movements (and jogging) and my calves are a good as they ever were.

The most effective exercise I've found for calves is the seated raise with high weight and reps. I'll keep loading the machine and repping and loading again and again until the machine is ready to break from the strain and then do a massive quadrupple drop set until my calves are spasming. This way I'm treating the movement like an event, an actual show of strength as opposed to a 'feeling the movement' type affair. Imagine Tom Platz squatting for 10 minutes with 315 or Pudzianovsky doing the farmers walk with a pair of cement suitcases going off into the distance.
 
disturbed311 said:
Its funny bro because i was just about to post something like this regarding myself... Alot of it has to do with genetics. I have long legs from the knee down to the foot and, shitty enough, my calves are placed at the very top. So there is alot of 'extra' length starting under my calf muscle all the way down to my foot..

Mine has got me so fucked up in the head that I don't even want to wear shorts. I feel like i'm getting judged and it really fuckin blows.. I've started to eat a really high protien diet along with other clean whole nutritious foods to cut, and I know its hard to gain alot of muscle while cutting.. But i'm starting to think that I don't need to be 250lbs at 20% bodyfat.. My calves are genetically skinny so I mine as well lean down as much as possible, of course not at the expense of losing muscle.

I've started jogging/walking on a steep incline on the treadmill and I have found that it really shocks and burns my calves which is something that I just might need.

Good luck to you bro. I hope you find out how to make them sons of bitches grow..

have you had any luck with walking on the steep incline with regard to overall development in yoru calves?
 
thanks to all those who have chimed in thus far. some great info.

I would still love to hear from those who - in the past suffered from small calves but have since turned them around what what they did to accomplish this.

I stuggle to get a really good burn when training using regular sets and reps. the follwoing I got from Nelson Montana on here and gives a great burn.

do a few warm up sets.
pick a weight where you can bang out 20 reps (to failure)
wait just long enough for the burn to stop then go again till failure (usually get 6-12 reps).
repeat this until you get to 100 reps
 
meh

calves are overrated






im just bitter cause mine are tiny lol
 
jonny jacked said:
thanks to all those who have chimed in thus far. some great info.

I would still love to hear from those who - in the past suffered from small calves but have since turned them around what what they did to accomplish this.

I stuggle to get a really good burn when training using regular sets and reps. the follwoing I got from Nelson Montana on here and gives a great burn.

do a few warm up sets.
pick a weight where you can bang out 20 reps (to failure)
wait just long enough for the burn to stop then go again till failure (usually get 6-12 reps).
repeat this until you get to 100 reps

That kind of workout is called GERMAN VOLUME TRAiNING popularized by Mr Vince Gironda as the 10x10 in which you pick a weight (60% of ur max) do 10 reps, 10 seconds rest more 10 reps until you complete 100 reps. Is great for working calves, forearms and to get past growth plateaus generally speaking.
 
My calves used to suck big time, were smaller than my arms, I did my homework and now i'm not ashamed of using shorts anymore :) It hurts but it really works, just be patient!
 
if you guys didnt have huge thighs your calves wouldnt look so small :) you could be like me and just have small thighs then the calves look ok
 
jonny jacked said:
and thanks buddy for the great info. :)

I only do calves once per week one on monday right when I get at the gym before chest, that way I keep myself motivated. After warming up w five min cardio, light calf stretching and some moderately heavy sets on the ham curl,to bring the blood flow to the area, I start the attack:

Straight leg heel rises done w NO SHOES!

3 warm up sets

9 work sets x8-12reps ( 3sets feet together 3 sets feet widely apart and 3 w medium stance) w all the weight i can handle properly for eight, always to failure.

I pause at the bottom going for a full stretch by 2-4 seconds and then going for a full squeeze at the top.

I rest only the enough time to stretch, get over the pain and when I feel ready for another beat down.

If i can get more than 12 reps I add more weight.

When I stop feeling soreness after 3 days I will start doing it 2x a week.

For now I only do one exercise to the limit because it's working so why change it?
 
If I feel like it I do some heavy leg curl afterward, it 's like doing biceps after forearms LOL. Anyway the calves seem to have a mind of them own. To keep it fresh every 6 weeks its good to make some changes on the routine.
 
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