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Chest Not Growing!

LoneRanger

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Hi guys, I'm having serious trouble gaining mass on my chest.

Basically i've been training now for 2 years. going the gym 5 times a week with a split etc. I wouldnt say i'm the king of nutrition but i'd like to say I know a fair bit. In 2 years i've gone from 130lbs to 160lbs. My delts have come on well, my lats stick out more than ever. My biceps have gained mass, I've git cut up quads etc. (I dont want this to sound like im bragging) The point i'm trying to make is that my chest refuses to GROW! While i've been going the gym i've got my friends into BB'ing too and they have poor nutrition pretty much lack the determination I have but seem to gain mass on there chest.

I've tried everything. I've changed my routine I think i've done every chest exercise possible over the last two years.

the only thing is that its got shape in the middle there is no shape no nothing. I just dont understand why.

I'm beggining to think that I have have had gyno as a kid and that is stopping me from growing. I dont know i'm just guessing.

Im hoping one of you guys know the problem and can help me out.
If any of you have ANY tips or advice on this please let me know.
Thanks fellas
 
One simple question. . . have you been prioritizing inclines? If not, this is your problem. You have become victim to the bench press.
 
Could just be your genetics man. Just keep on working hard, and make it all grow. Your chest will follow. It takes time, my friend.
 
It's impossible to help without knowing more about what you're doing. Your diet is probably adequate since you've put on 30 lbs. and are growing elsewhere, but it might not hurt to bump your protein up. Rarely does :)

I think gettinlarger has a point in that you need to be patient. But I also think that if what you've been doing hasn't worked, it's time to radically change things. People have ragged on me for talking about philosophy, but in logic, there's something called "the gambler's fallacy."

Basically, it's all about someone expecting different results, like hitting the jackpot, when they do the same thing over and over again. You've mentioned that you've tried lots of different exercises, but that's only one variable...my guess is that you're doing everything else (volume, frequency, intensity) pretty much the same way for a long time.

Don't beat yourself up about that; but now's as good a time as any to totally change your approach! I suggest you try working chest harder with fewer exercises and sets, and stick to the basics: incline presses, dips, and the like. Think in terms of how much work you need to stimulate growth, yet not so much that it will prevent you from getting back into the gym to stimulate more growth in short order.

Ideally, I'd ask that you read through the DC thread here. It's a good way to get as many growth-stimulating workouts in as short a period of time as possible, IMO. Something that DC emphasizes, and I will re-emphasize, is the need to focus on actually building your pecs in the sense that, yes, you're going for progressively heavier weights, but you use very clean form on every exercise. That alone could help you; too often people are caught up in trying to bench press a lot while their pec development falls by the wayside.

P.S.--Gyno won't hinder your growth now. Gyno didn't stop Ronnie Coleman from building a huge pair of pecs, eh? We even saw his gyno onstage in '98 :) Also, regarding the shape of your chest, don't fret that...it's genetic. Just build your pecs as big as possible and the shape will take care of itself.
 
Try playing with your grip. I use to bench with a close grip for over a year and nothing. I recently widened my grip and that helped so much. My chest just blew out within a few weeks. Inclines must be stressed as well. You can't just do flat.
 
I've had the same problem too, with the chest not growing. I've been training for 3 years, and over this time, the chest hasn't grown much. It has just started to grow just lately though. Try starting off with heavy Incline dumbells, then going flat bench. Throw in weighted dips, if you don't like decline. Then finish off with cable crossovers or light DB flyes. If that doesn't work after like a month and a half or so, try the pre-exhaust method doing flyes first, then follow the same routine with a slightly lighter weight. Hope this helps for you, everyone is different.
 
You have to get your diet and rest in check two of my favourite chest exercises are incline presses and weighted dips.
 
dumbell press and dips, woohoo

i hate bench press anymore since i started doing these in a combo on chest day.
 
As Louden said... Incline bench press....
As soon as I made that my chest priority I can't believe how much I've thickened up through my chest
 
LoneRanger said:
Hi guys, I'm having serious trouble gaining mass on my chest.


Question: Do you have broad shoulders and/or long arms?

Go to your search engine and search for a thread under my nick titled: "Broad shoulders = weak chest? Upper body only steroid cycle."
 
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wow...i am surprised that nobody has talked about your pectoralis minor, which lies beneath the larger pectoralis major.....

if this often overlooked stabilizer is not strong enough or trained enough, your pecs are not going to grow as much as you like....the best exercise for this is the limited range dumbbell pullover....

with a limited range db pullover you lay flat on your back on a flat bench...then raise a db up above you (like you are going to do normal pullovers), then lower the db to where your arms are parallel with the floor, do not go any lower...then lift the db slightly up but not all the way up...lets say 2/3 up....you will feel a huge pull under your chin (that's how you will know you are doing it right)...this is far and away the best exercise for hitting this small muscle and not only will it grown and push the pec major up...but as it grows your body will allow your pecs to grow a lot more....
 
my chest has been exploding lately. the last couple months i've started doing heavy dips and i also at the same time started the DC routine. I dont know how much weighted dips have helped my chest, but i have to give credit to the DC routine. One set, twice every 4 days have pushed both my chest size and strength thru the roof. I dont do inclined and flat bench on the same day but i do alternate them. After years of doing many sets of chest once a week, i concluded that did not work for my chest. I am an extreme hardgainer started out at 115. If ur a hardgainer, maybe u should lower volume and up the frequency?
 
lil k said:
wow...i am surprised that nobody has talked about your pectoralis minor, which lies beneath the larger pectoralis major.....

if this often overlooked stabilizer is not strong enough or trained enough, your pecs are not going to grow as much as you like....the best exercise for this is the limited range dumbbell pullover....

with a limited range db pullover you lay flat on your back on a flat bench...then raise a db up above you (like you are going to do normal pullovers), then lower the db to where your arms are parallel with the floor, do not go any lower...then lift the db slightly up but not all the way up...lets say 2/3 up....you will feel a huge pull under your chin (that's how you will know you are doing it right)...this is far and away the best exercise for hitting this small muscle and not only will it grown and push the pec major up...but as it grows your body will allow your pecs to grow a lot more....

For anyone intrested, here is a great article on this:

Chest: Nail the Pec Minor!

The pectoralis minor is a thin, flat muscle lying beneath the larger pectoralis major. It extends laterally and upward, originating from the sternal ends of the upper ribs (3rd-5th) and inserting onto the coracoid process of the scapula. The pec minor pulls the scapula forward and downward and can raise the ribs, thus aiding in forceful inhalation.

The following tip is derived from former Ironman contributor and author of several strength books, Fred Koch. To increase chest size, you have to train both the pec major and minor. The minor tends to get overlooked since it's not as glamorous as the major. Koch notes that the great upper-chest development of swimmers is due to the pec minor which is responsible for half of the freestyle stroke. So how do you train the pec minor without getting wet?

Perform limited-range dumbbell pullovers on a flat bench

According to Koch, the key to this exercise is to keep the elbows close to the head (within the lines of the shoulders) and to use a short range of motion (ROM). If you have a hard time getting into this position, consider Active Release Techniques (ART) for the following muscles: subscapularis, latismus dorsi, teres major, long head of the triceps brachii, and serratus anterior. Visit ActiveRelease.com to find a provider in your area.

Also, according to ART practitioner, Dr. Mark Lindsay, a sling pattern exists between the pectoralis minor and the short head of the biceps. In addition, Dr. Lindsay has noticed a tendency of the pec minor to adhere to the major. In order for the pec minor to function properly, you should free up any adhesions that may exist. If ART isn't an option, you can always stretch your lats by simply hanging from a chin-up bar with one arm. (Scratching your armpit or eating a banana is optional.)

Keep in mind that in most shoulder exercises, the pec minor functions as a stabilizer for the scapula, and not as a prime mover. In the limited-range pullover, however, it acts as a prime mover. Traditionally, this exercise has been touted to improve winging scapulae, but in reality, it does the opposite. The lats are also involved in this movement, and they actually end up pulling your shoulder blades apart! (Poliquin, 1997)

Now, you often hear horror stories about the pullover exercise and, to a certain extent, they're true. For instance, according to Durall et al: "…subacromial impingement can also be exacerbated by exercises that involve excessive flexion. The pullover exercise performed supine with free weights or on a machine forces the rotator cuff tendons and bursa against the undersurface of the acromion when the arms are hyperflexed. This exercise can be made safer by simply limiting flexion to the normal physiological limits or a comfortable ROM."

What this simply means is that if you have any shoulder problems, you might want to avoid this exercise altogether. Yes, performing pullovers on a decline bench is a much safer option to reduce the amount of shoulder flexion, but unfortunately, the pec minor doesn't get overloaded in this position. Okay, enough talk, let's learn to do the darned exercise already!

Cup a dumbbell between both hands and lay back onto a flat bench. With your arms fully extended above your face, carefully lower the weight until your outstretched arms are in line with your body. Keep the small of your back pressed against the bench and brace the abdominals throughout to protect your lower back.

Make sure the elbows stay in (don't let them flare out) or else the lats will kick in. Elbows should be directly beside your ears in the bottom position. Raise the dumbbell in an arcing motion only about six to eight inches, or 45 degrees from horizontal. Again, keep your arms straight throughout, and remember, this is a limited ROM exercise to emphasize the pec minor. You'll actually feel the muscle contract under your chin!

I must reiterate: keep the abdominals tight! Don't allow the back to arch excessively as this movement is notorious for abdominal herniations. The abs are recruited as heavy stabilizers in this movement—just another bonus!

If you're still not convinced about the importance of training the pec minor, then listen up. According to Koch, there are feedback systems within the body to protect you from developing serious imbalances. Subsequently, the body may slow down or even halt the development of the pec major if the minor is underdeveloped. Bottom line: training the minor will make a major difference!
 
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