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Chefs - help a honkey out (homemade protein bars...)

KillahBee

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What can I replace the honey with in the following recipe? I DETEST honey - it makes me come close to projectile vomiting. I think it was all the mushroom tea and honey I drank in college. Everything else is fine - I just need something to keep it all together like the honey. I can do about half the suggested amount of honey without killing myself, but that much doesn't keep it together as well. gracias.

16oz ANPB
8 tbsp honey
6 scoops whey
1 cup oatmeal

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it's simple:

mix the PB and honey into a bowl, then microwave for 80 seconds. add the rest and mix together. I added nuts, can add raisins or whatever. smooth into a 13x9 tray and elave for 20 mins. cut into bars, wrap em, and store in the fridge. done and done.

I used half the amount of honey and they just didn't stay together. I've made these for years now and they always taste great. but keeping them together is always the issue. I used vanilla whey, but you can use whatever flavor your little heart desires
 
maple syrup
brown rice syrup
cane sugar syrup

OR maybe a preserve or jam (you can always go sugar-free). Strawberry?

I wonder if pureed fruit, like banana, would do it as well.
 
since nutritionally honey is almost a perfect invert sugar... you can just add either pure glucose or pure 'heavy' corn syrup, all three are the same animal, the only difference is they wont taste like honey... even the measure is the same..


is that what you were in need of bro?
 
glycerol might work?
 
Judo Tom said:
glycerol might work?
maaaaybe...but its horrendously sweet and will have some effects on hydration and blood pressure that you might not neccessarily want without taking them into account first (blood pressure will likely go up)

imo chef is on the ball as usual, but you might want to think about condensed milk also, or if youre game, maybe experiment with glycerine...but youd have to set it in a tray and keep it cool. ech. and i get a bad feeling in my mouth already.
 
bran987 said:
what's an invert sugar?

these look like about 60% fat, 25% carb, 15% protein, is that what you're looking for KB? Does it make about 6 bars? Seems like that would make sense, 1 bar per scoop of whey.

it can make as many as you want. I got about 9 out of em.
 
My bud used a recipe he googled for peanut butter granola bars. Then he switched out some ingredients and through in some un-flavored isolate.......They were solid and good...
 
Corn Syrup would have the least taste if that is a concern.

I think that is what Alton Brown used in his bars, if not honey and that..
 
KillahBee said:
What can I replace the honey with in the following recipe? I DETEST honey - it makes me come close to projectile vomiting. I think it was all the mushroom tea and honey I drank in college. Everything else is fine - I just need something to keep it all together like the honey. I can do about half the suggested amount of honey without killing myself, but that much doesn't keep it together as well. gracias.

16oz ANPB
8 tbsp honey
6 scoops whey
1 cup oatmeal

:rainbow:


^^^ fucking suzy home-maker right here.... :rolleyes:
 
how about some unflavored gelatin, like Knox. Just mix it all up and throw em in the fridge. But then they prolly wouldn't stay solid once they got warm. I think the egg whites would work but you'd have to bake them for little bit so the eggs set up.
 
yeah, I've seen the recipe with egg whites which require baking. I'd rather try to fine tune this recipe since I have used it so much. I think I should try the syrup out
 
oats are the binder, paisan, if you need to increase the glue factor but want to leave the carb bonanaza out... add... wait for it... WATER!!!!,

heating the ANPB and glucose/syrup/honey/samething is there to expand the starches in the oats and get them to suck up the goodies and bind this fecker up, soooo... maybe use half measure maple syrup,make up the diff with water, some splenda if you need the sweeterosity, heat it til HOT then do as you do... you should be fine with that and your ratios will look less like a hershey bar with a smidgin of protein...


give a half recipe like that a shot, see what happens...


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ChefWide said:
oats are the binder, paisan, if you need to increase the glue factor but want to leave the carb bonanaza out... add... wait for it... WATER!!!!,

heating the ANPB and glucose/syrup/honey/samething is there to expand the starches in the oats and get them to suck up the goodies and bind this fecker up, soooo... maybe use half measure maple syrup,make up the diff with water, some splenda if you need the sweeterosity, heat it til HOT then do as you do... you should be fine with that and your ratios will look less like a hershey bar with a smidgin of protein...


give a half recipe like that a shot, see what happens...


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word - I'll try that. I don't mind adding oats, so if that's needed I can do no problemo. thanks for the input.
 
bran987 said:
what's an invert sugar?



Invert sugar is created by combining a SUGAR SYRUP with a small amount of acid (such as Cream OF Tartar or lemon juice) and heating. This inverts, or breaks down, the Sucrose into its two components, Glucose and Fructose, thereby reducing the size of the sugar crystals. Because of its fine crystal structure, invert sugar produces a smoother product and is used in making candies such as fondant, and some syrups. The process of making jams and jellies automatically produces invert sugar by combining the natural acid in the fruit with granulated sugar and heating the mixture. Invert sugar can usually be found in jars in cake decorating supply shops.


I like QT egg idea!
 
Pamela said:
Invert sugar is created by combining a SUGAR SYRUP with a small amount of acid (such as Cream OF Tartar or lemon juice) and heating. This inverts, or breaks down, the Sucrose into its two components, Glucose and Fructose, thereby reducing the size of the sugar crystals. Because of its fine crystal structure, invert sugar produces a smoother product and is used in making candies such as fondant, and some syrups. The process of making jams and jellies automatically produces invert sugar by combining the natural acid in the fruit with granulated sugar and heating the mixture. Invert sugar can usually be found in jars in cake decorating supply shops.


I like QT egg idea!


Yah, good info Miss Pamela.. on a comercial level most invert sugar is proceseed by enzymatic reaction useing invertase rather then chemical reaction using acids.. you end up with a much more stable and much purer product.. that having been said, for this protein bar fest i would lean toward less carbs.. so i am going to whip out a version tonight with....

8oz ANPB
1/4 cup maple syrup
1/4 cup water
4 scoops MMilk Cookies and Cream Flavor
12 scoops ISO AGB
2 cup oatmeal
.5 cups pecan pieces
Splenda
Cinnamon
Instant Coffee


Macro totals look like:

cals 4345
fat 171, 36%
cho 311, of which 70gm are fiber, 22%
pro 448, 42%

not sure what the yield is gonna look like, but will check it out... i would like to get 14 bars outta this so that each looks like about 300 cals.. mabey a tiny bit less....

carbs are low on this, my choice, but the addition of some dried fruits would hit that.
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AAP said:
the protein ratios in those look terrrible.


In Alton's... or Mine... get the gloves on bitch....
 
ChefWide said:
Yah, good info Miss Pamela.. on a comercial level most invert sugar is proceseed by enzymatic reaction useing invertase rather then chemical reaction using acids.. you end up with a much more stable and much purer product.. that having been said, for this protein bar fest i would lean toward less carbs.. so i am going to whip out a version tonight with....

8oz ANPB
1/4 cup maple syrup
1/4 cup water
4 scoops MMilk Cookies and Cream Flavor
12 scoops ISO AGB
2 cup oatmeal
.5 cups pecan pieces
Splenda
Cinnamon
Instant Coffee


Macro totals look like:

cals 4345
fat 171, 36%
cho 311, of which 70gm are fiber, 22%
pro 448, 42%

not sure what the yield is gonna look like, but will check it out... i would like to get 14 bars outta this so that each looks like about 300 cals.. mabey a tiny bit less....

carbs are low on this, my choice, but the addition of some dried fruits would hit that.
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just made 'em.. cooling now.. taste killer hot, will see how the firm up.
 
jack_schitt said:
So what is the final stage of producing this magical bar....and E-Z Bake Oven?


" I have yet to begin to defile myself, Hcklbry...'









Actually, i was going to pour whole butter hazelnut caramel and ganache over them and eat them with whipped cream and a scoop of espresso gellato...



Or take sweaty naked pics of myself and post them....



Not sure yet....
 
The Shadow said:
anyone mention syrup?


I have heard the pneumonia prevents thread reading... in acute cases...



:rainbow:





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ChefWide said:
" I have yet to begin to defile myself, Hcklbry...'









Actually, i was going to pour whole butter hazelnut caramel and ganache over them and eat them with whipped cream and a scoop of espresso gellato...



Or take sweaty naked pics of myself and post them....



Not sure yet....

I would just mix the shit together and put it in a tupperware bowl or something. I'm not much of a culinary artist.

And please...no nekkid sweaty pics.
 
jack_schitt said:
I would just mix the shit together and put it in a tupperware bowl or something. I'm not much of a culinary artist.

And please...no nekkid sweaty pics.


Hombree, it was yust a yolk, tu sabe?






Actualy, they came out pretty friggin great!! had to whip the whole mess back in the micro after i mixed together it was a bit wet, which is normally just what i am looking for.. but i digress...

A little more in nuke-o-rama and then into a plastic lined caserole dish.. chilled up pretty good.. still a bit gooey.. i think the starches in the oats need more l'amour... next batch...


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does anyone have a recipe for home made protein bars that have no peanut products in them? no baking would be preferred but not necessary.

Thanks
 
Judo Tom said:
does anyone have a recipe for home made protein bars that have no peanut products in them? no baking would be preferred but not necessary.

Thanks


Hey JT, hope all is well, mon.


Yah, no problem, those bars i made last night came out GREAT.. not hard though.. moist and chewey but not hard like a Big 100 bar or some such..

Tell me, is it the peanuts? or ANY nuts? is the fat ratio? check my recipe above and eyeball the macros, my actual bars are probably a few grams lower in fat and higher in fiber/carbs as i used more oats and less ANPB than i listed there, and had to add more water to get the oats and protein to mix... then it was a little too wet so i had to nuke it a little longer:

conclusion? no problems... tastes great, just might need a little tweeking in microwave and liquid variation.


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AAP said:
the protein ratios in those look terrrible.
ChefWide said:
In Alton's... or Mine... get the gloves on bitch....


There best be no Alton Brown or Good Eats hatin goin on up in here,
or I'll make a mess out of your life AAP like no pussy ass Hurricane ever could.

Cut AB's bars some slack. They taste awesome and are all natural.
Also, the man is about as Non Jacked as your last boyfriend..
 
ChefWide said:
Hey JT, hope all is well, mon.


Yah, no problem, those bars i made last night came out GREAT.. not hard though.. moist and chewey but not hard like a Big 100 bar or some such..

Tell me, is it the peanuts? or ANY nuts? is the fat ratio? check my recipe above and eyeball the macros, my actual bars are probably a few grams lower in fat and higher in fiber/carbs as i used more oats and less ANPB than i listed there, and had to add more water to get the oats and protein to mix... then it was a little too wet so i had to nuke it a little longer:

conclusion? no problems... tastes great, just might need a little tweeking in microwave and liquid variation.


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im allergic to all peanut/nut type products except the oils.

i dont care if they are high fat.. and would prefer that over high carb but it really makes no difference. my priority list would be as follows.. if it helps sorry if im being a pain but just so people know what im looking for

1. no peanut/nut products
2. decent amount of protein
3. taste
4. macro nutrient ratio high protein/fat/carbs but fat/carbs part isnt huge
5. no baking

thanks I am always on the run and miss a lot of meals which often make me weak for my next workout in the day or ill fall asleep w/out eating and wake up feeling like crap w/ no energy.

Thanks
 
No Nuts Huh ? What sounds good to me would be bars with combinations of:

Wheat Germ, Steel cut Oats or Oat bran, Whey/Soy Powder, Coconut and something to bind it up with like corn syrup..

I think you will still need to cook the mix on top of the stove like rice crispy treats,
spread them out on a pan to cool and cut.
 
Y_lifter said:
No Nuts Huh ? What sounds good to me would be bars with combinations of:

Wheat Germ, Steel cut Oats or Oat bran, Whey/Soy Powder, Coconut and something to bind it up with like corn syrup..

I think you will still need to cook the mix on top of the stove like rice crispy treats,
spread them out on a pan to cool and cut.


yepper...
 
Judo Tom said:
thanks I am always on the run and miss a lot of meals which often make me weak for my next workout in the day or ill fall asleep w/out eating and wake up feeling like crap w/ no energy.

Thanks

You should considerer cutting up the bars and dusting them with finely crushed meth with cinnamon. It would put the skip back into your step.
 
Raina: does cinnamon go w/ meth? i was thinking of coating them w/ caramel.. but im open to suggestions


anyone got an idea for the ratios to make a bar outta: Wheat Germ, Steel cut Oats or Oat bran, Whey/Soy Powder, Coconut, corn syrup..

if not what type of consistency should they be before baking?
 
In my family we've always considered cinnamon and meth to be a festive holiday tradition. We open presents SO much faster than other families and you should see us clean!
 
Raina said:
In my family we've always considered cinnamon and meth to be a festive holiday tradition. We open presents SO much faster than other families and you should see us clean!


Cinnamon and meth.. tsk tsk... so nouveau...


In our hallowed halls, the protein bars are crusted with toasted coconut and ginger chips then rolled in Crisis Crank: a lovingly crafted mixture crushed 'ludes, ecuadorian flake and pharma grade MDMA....


Ahhhh... Holiday spirit does not come in a bottle, hmmm?
 
Use this receipe as a guide removing the PB and the Tofu if you want, adding
whey powder and more juice if needed. I like the fruit in there ..

Texture should be like raw rice crispy treats before baking as in very solid but
able to be easily flattened on a baking sheet.


4 ounces soy protein powder, approximately 1 cup
2 1/4 ounces oat bran, approximately 1/2 cup
2 3/4 ounces Oats, approximately 1/2 cup
3/4-ounce wheat germ, approximately 1/4 cup
1/2 teaspoon kosher salt

3 ounces raisins, approximately 1/2 cup
2 1/2 ounces dried cherries, approximately 1/2 cup
3 ounces dried blueberries, approximately 1/2 cup
2 1/2 ounces dried apricots, approximately 1/2 cup
1 (12.3-ounce) package soft silken tofu
1/2 cup unfiltered apple juice
4 ounces dark brown sugar, approximately 1/2 cup packed
2 large whole eggs, beaten
2/3 cup natural peanut butter
Canola oil, for pan


Line the bottom of a 13 by 9-inch glass baking dish with parchment paper and lightly coat with canola oil. Set aside. Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F.

In a large mixing bowl, combine the protein powder, oat bran, wheat flour, wheat germ, and salt. Set aside.

Coarsely chop the raisins, dried cherries, blueberries and apricots and place in a small bowl and set aside.

In a third mixing bowl, whisk the tofu until smooth. Add the apple juice, brown sugar, eggs, and peanut butter, 1 at a time, and whisk to combine after each addition. Add this to the protein powder mixture and stir well to combine. Fold in the dried fruit. Spread evenly in the prepared baking dish and bake in the oven for 35 minutes or until the internal temperature reaches 205 degrees F. Remove from the oven and cool completely before cutting into squares. Cut into squares and store in an airtight container for up to a week.
 
Y_lifter said:
Use this receipe as a guide removing the PB and the Tofu if you want, adding
whey powder and more juice if needed. I like the fruit in there ..

Texture should be like raw rice crispy treats before baking as in very solid but
able to be easily flattened on a baking sheet.


4 ounces soy protein powder, approximately 1 cup
2 1/4 ounces oat bran, approximately 1/2 cup
2 3/4 ounces Oats, approximately 1/2 cup
3/4-ounce wheat germ, approximately 1/4 cup
1/2 teaspoon kosher salt

3 ounces raisins, approximately 1/2 cup
2 1/2 ounces dried cherries, approximately 1/2 cup
3 ounces dried blueberries, approximately 1/2 cup
2 1/2 ounces dried apricots, approximately 1/2 cup
1 (12.3-ounce) package soft silken tofu
1/2 cup unfiltered apple juice
4 ounces dark brown sugar, approximately 1/2 cup packed
2 large whole eggs, beaten
2/3 cup natural peanut butter
Canola oil, for pan


Line the bottom of a 13 by 9-inch glass baking dish with parchment paper and lightly coat with canola oil. Set aside. Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F.

In a large mixing bowl, combine the protein powder, oat bran, wheat flour, wheat germ, and salt. Set aside.

Coarsely chop the raisins, dried cherries, blueberries and apricots and place in a small bowl and set aside.

In a third mixing bowl, whisk the tofu until smooth. Add the apple juice, brown sugar, eggs, and peanut butter, 1 at a time, and whisk to combine after each addition. Add this to the protein powder mixture and stir well to combine. Fold in the dried fruit. Spread evenly in the prepared baking dish and bake in the oven for 35 minutes or until the internal temperature reaches 205 degrees F. Remove from the oven and cool completely before cutting into squares. Cut into squares and store in an airtight container for up to a week.


going to whip through fitday and see what i get.. i think that if you cut back on the dry fruit just a little and up the eggwhites and juice as liquid medium, you might be able to as much as tripple the protein content...

sounds really good Y, life k to you brother.

oh, PM coming to you as well...


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