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changing counpounds mid cycle

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Changing Compounds Mid Cycle

hey guys need help with this.
my 16 week cycle consist of test e 1000 mg , eq 600 mg , and tren e 400mg.
i'm on my 8th week now but can't tolerate tren anymore i want to stop it , the question is can i replace it with Deca at the same dosage for the next 8 weeks? i know that Deca have a very long ester and usually done for 12 to 16 weeks , but could it work in mid cycles since both Tren and Deca are 19-nor steroids and work on the same receptors i guess.
any opinions are appreciated , specially from the mods
thx in advance
 
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NO_NO!!! If you can't tolerate it anymore then just drop the tren and keep running test i would prefer to 750wk is plenty.then at the end do an agressive PCT


RADAR
 
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if i was to start the deca id run the test to 18 weeks and drop deca at 16...deca gains stop for me by week 8..i run it 10 weeks just to solidify gains but you can do it like you want...

are you sure the eq isnt the one giving you the problem? i just had to drop eq from my test,deca,tren eq cycle///the anxiety was to much
 
Don't run tren so long anyways bro. 8 weeks is absolute max IMO. That's why running tren ace for 6 weeks is so common. It gets in, kicks your ass, and is out without extending those shitty side effects. Trenbolone is not nice to your kidneys either. I bet your piss is dark yellow/brownish when you don't drink tons of water, isn't it?
 
Don't run tren so long anyways bro. 8 weeks is absolute max IMO. That's why running tren ace for 6 weeks is so common. It gets in, kicks your ass, and is out without extending those shitty side effects. Trenbolone is not nice to your kidneys either. I bet your piss is dark yellow/brownish when you don't drink tons of water, isn't it?
tren isnt toxic :)
 
tren isnt toxic :)

No, it isn't, but it doesn't have to be inherintly toxic in and of itself to have vicarious effects on your kidneys.

To think it isn't bad for you is naive. Not that that is what you are saying, but the kidneys are affected by the effects trenbolone. Extreme blood-protein levels and nitrogen retention affect the kidneys. Trenbolone does this more effectively than any other drug I can think of. That's why it works so damn well.

Diurectics do the same thing the kidney's through a different means, but it's not because of the direct effect of the drug interacting with the kidney, it's the other stuff it does, which makes the kidneys process extreme amounts in a short period of time. It's really bad for you.
 
thx guys for the replies , i'm dropping the tren cuz of the anxiety and short breath , i tried it b4 with ace for 6 weeks and had the same sides but this time is worse, maybe cuz i added eq and it's my first time with eq so i dunno if eq is what worsening things maybe i should have done eq alone with test, i was thinking to drop Tren and lower the eq dose to 400 mg, but i'm at the mid of my cycle where i was suppose to boost things up or add a new compound to keep gaining not dropping compounds or lowering dosages cuz i feel like i hit a plateau i'm on week 8, could deca do the job for the next 8 weeks or should i prolong my 16 week cycle to 2 more weeks to give deca a chance to work?
thx again guys
 
NO_NO!!! If you can't tolerate it anymore then just drop the tren and keep running test i would prefer to 750wk is plenty.then at the end do an agressive PCT


RADAR

i'm doing hcg 250 iu twice a week during cycle and later pct nolva 20mg/ed , clomid 50mg/ed ,and adex 0.25mg/eod for 6 weeks
 
if i was to start the deca id run the test to 18 weeks and drop deca at 16...deca gains stop for me by week 8..i run it 10 weeks just to solidify gains but you can do it like you want...

are you sure the eq isnt the one giving you the problem? i just had to drop eq from my test,deca,tren eq cycle///the anxiety was to much

when u dropped eq and kept the tren did u feel better? could it be that eq is worse than tren and what makes the anxiety?
 
Don't run tren so long anyways bro. 8 weeks is absolute max IMO. That's why running tren ace for 6 weeks is so common. It gets in, kicks your ass, and is out without extending those shitty side effects. Trenbolone is not nice to your kidneys either. I bet your piss is dark yellow/brownish when you don't drink tons of water, isn't it?

yeah ur right about the piss , i noticed that when i don't drink enough.
 
If your heart is racing. Having palpulations, shortness of breath. Anxiety is thru the roof. It's the eq. I just had same shit happen. It got si bad I had to end up taking anxiety meds because I was holding my chest all day freaking out.

If drop the eq and the tren and use deca in it's place or just cut cycle short recover an try again
 
If your heart is racing. Having palpulations, shortness of breath. Anxiety is thru the roof. It's the eq. I just had same shit happen. It got si bad I had to end up taking anxiety meds because I was holding my chest all day freaking out.

If drop the eq and the tren and use deca in it's place or just cut cycle short recover an try again

thx for ur reply bro i think i'm goin with ur advice, but how much eq and tren u were doin , i'm thinking of dropping the tren and keep eq at a low dose like 200 mg since it's my first time with it i'm curious to see its results that everybody speaks of in long cycles , and continue with deca for 400mg
 
thx for ur reply bro i think i'm goin with ur advice, but how much eq and tren u were doin , i'm thinking of dropping the tren and keep eq at a low dose like 200 mg since it's my first time with it i'm curious to see its results that everybody speaks of in long cycles , and continue with deca for 400mg
the eq is 99% the problem...keeping it at 200mg ew im sure sides will lessen but it wont produce any results..
eq has to be the absoluite worst ever..ive used it a few times and everytime its garbage..
i was useing eq at 600mg ew and tren at 525 of ace...
after 8 weeks ur results on cycle will diminish..you can either change it up to get more results or cut it off and start again

me personally i 10 weeks on then cruise low dose test 6 weeks then 10 weeks on etc..i make gains everytime
 
the eq is 99% the problem...keeping it at 200mg ew im sure sides will lessen but it wont produce any results..
eq has to be the absoluite worst ever..ive used it a few times and everytime its garbage..
i was useing eq at 600mg ew and tren at 525 of ace...
after 8 weeks ur results on cycle will diminish..you can either change it up to get more results or cut it off and start again

me personally i 10 weeks on then cruise low dose test 6 weeks then 10 weeks on etc..i make gains everytime

i always was curious about blasting , cruising then blasting again, i'm thinking of doing it now , ur always convincing bro, and since it seems that eq is the problem i'm thinking of dropping it forever, and cruise for 4 weeks with 250mg of test e then blast again for 8 weeks with 1000mg test e and the second compound u think should it be deca or tren at 400mg?
thx bro for caring i really feel relieved , someone has experienced my troubles :)
 
i always was curious about blasting , cruising then blasting again, i'm thinking of doing it now , ur always convincing bro, and since it seems that eq is the problem i'm thinking of dropping it forever, and cruise for 4 weeks with 250mg of test e then blast again for 8 weeks with 1000mg test e and the second compound u think should it be deca or tren at 400mg?
thx bro for caring i really feel relieved , someone has experienced my troubles :)
since you just ran the tren id prob run the deca this time..blast and cruise can make pct difficult when you do it..keep up with the hcg on cycle and plan a real; good pct
 
since you just ran the tren id prob run the deca this time..blast and cruise can make pct difficult when you do it..keep up with the hcg on cycle and plan a real; good pct

ok than deca it is , and pct for 6 weeks clomid 50mg/ed, nolva 20mg/ed and adex 0.25mg/eod , thinking of including sarms s4 in pct and keep cruising on it till next cycle, never used sarms b4 but the guys here swear by it so i'll give it a try.
 
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