Certain compounds taken Pre WO only

[Voxide3]

Hear me out on this, I've heard of people taking dosages of Halo or Cheque Drops, even drol pre-workout, but never running a formal cycle, so to speak. Never mind the practicality, because people swear by the pumps and aggression, but with this be safe in the slightest sense of the word? Would any sort of PCT be required from this or would no substantial changes happen in the HPTA from only taking them once in a while like a supplement?

 

[C.K.]

you'd be in a sense using the pulse method ofcourse it will supress you but minimally provided you don't do it everyday ofcourse

 

[stevesmi]

bro just pop some powerchews before your workout. there are great supps out there, take advantage!

 

[Voxide3]

you'd be in a sense using the pulse method ofcourse it will supress you but minimally provided you don't do it everyday ofcourse

To the extent of creating estrogen related sides? I'm assuming the suppression would be minimal due to the small dosage involved and thus would be able to resolve itself? I'm aware that blood levels need to be maintained but could 50mg of Oxymetholone actually have a slight effect if it was taken only once?

bro just pop some powerchews before your workout. there are great supps out there, take advantage!

Not a fan of placebos and caffeine loaded sugar pills.

 

[stevesmi]

Not a fan of placebos and caffeine loaded sugar pills.

powerchews is a combination of creatine + BCAA's. read up on the ingredients.

creatine has been proven to work so not sure how you can say its a placebo.

I dunno bro I am natty for most of the year.. i run maybe 1 or 2 cycles a year max. i depend on these supps to push me, and I think I have some good mass on me for a guy who doesn't juice very much. so the supps must be doing something more than having a placebo effect

 

[Voxide3]

powerchews is a combination of creatine + BCAA's. read up on the ingredients.

creatine has been proven to work so not sure how you can say its a placebo.

The pre-workout formula is a combination of creatine, arginine, caffeine. A trio proven to be completely counterproductive by multiple studies on the topic.

T NATION | NO2 / Arginine Scam - Part 1

I'm sure the vasoconstriction of caffeine interferes with the rest of the unimpressive ingredients, so the point is moot. I appreciate the recommendation, but I prefer to not waste money and stick with what works. As far as glutamine and caffeine pushing you...well, I hope you're not serious. Diet and training is what yields results.

 

[Stryker1992]

The pre-workout formula is a combination of creatine, arginine, caffeine. A trio proven to be completely counterproductive by multiple studies on the topic.

T NATION | NO2 / Arginine Scam - Part 1

I'm sure the vasoconstriction of caffeine interferes with the rest of the unimpressive ingredients, so the point is moot. I appreciate the recommendation, but I prefer to not waste money and stick with what works. As far as glutamine and caffeine pushing you...well, I hope you're not serious. Diet and training is what yields results.

Creatine is an amino acid compound found in human skeletal muscle nessecary to provide explosive power during exercise... and raising phosphocreatine stores improves performance and taken pre-workout has benefits..but in reality you want to flood your system and build you storage levels overall.

Secondly, temporarily raising test levels does not have any major impact on protein synthesis and one is looking for a steady raised level. So, if you are looking for a temporary ergogenic aid creatine is proven...

If you want to raise your levels naturally without suppression then utilize a phyto test(phyto serms 347) and possibly form stanzol to raise test level, decrease estrogen and improve performance.

I have never been a fan of the "pulse method" and there are far more beneficial practices for boosting performance.

 

[Voxide3]

Creatine is an amino acid compound found in human skeletal muscle nessecary to provide explosive power during exercise... and raising phosphocreatine stores improves performance and taken pre-workout has benefits..but in reality you want to flood your system and build you storage levels overall.

Secondly, temporarily raising test levels does not have any major impact on protein synthesis and one is looking for a steady raised level. So, if you are looking for a temporary ergogenic aid creatine is proven...

If you want to raise your levels naturally without suppression then utilize a phyto test(phyto serms 347) and possibly form stanzol to raise test level, decrease estrogen and improve performance.

I have never been a fan of the "pulse method" and there are far more beneficial practices for boosting performance.

I know what Creatine is, and it's much better taken alone in a monohydrate form without cheap marketing frills.

After further research, I realize that taking drol without doing formal cycling is asinine. People on other boards still swear by cheque drops and Halo, for their aggression altering properties. Halotestin also needs to be done in a cycle though. Cheque drops on the other hand are strongly advised against for that purpose due to extreme toxicity issues.

 

[Stryker1992]

I know what Creatine is, and it's much better taken alone in a monohydrate form without cheap marketing frills.

After further research, I realize that taking drol without doing formal cycling is asinine. People on other boards still swear by cheque drops and Halo, for their aggression altering properties. Halotestin also needs to be done in a cycle though. Cheque drops on the other hand are strongly advised against for that purpose due to extreme toxicity issues.

Bro...you are never going to make it here if you can't be a little bit more respectful. We do not allow disrespect to one another and or to out sponsors. this is an upsatding board and if there is a sponsor here it is beause their products have been proven and utilized by people who know.

If you are going to utilize superdrol then I suggest getting an on cycle support product and proper PCT.

Regards.

 

[Voxide3]

Bro...you are never going to make it here if you can't be a little bit more respectful. We do not allow disrespect to one another and or to out sponsors. this is an upsatding board and if there is a sponsor here it is beause their products have been proven and utilized by people who know.

If you are going to utilize superdrol then I suggest getting an on cycle support product and proper PCT.

Regards.

Can you point out to me where I blatantly disrespected anyone? The "cheap marketing frills" was a general statement, not in regards to anything specific.

I understand that sponsors have every right to try and sell their product. Just like I have every right to save my money and stick to what works. Show me a study that says these powerchews are better than creatine mono from GNC, and I will promptly shut my mouth, I promise you.

This thread doesn't have anything to do with Superdrol, though the reviews I've read have been largely positive.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Actually the best thing to take pre workout would be GEAR and ZIP. And dbol.

 

[Stryker1992]

Can you point out to me where I blatantly disrespected anyone? The "cheap marketing frills" was a general statement, not in regards to anything specific.

I understand that sponsors have every right to try and sell their product. Just like I have every right to save my money and stick to what works. Show me a study that says these powerchews are better than creatine mono from GNC, and I will promptly shut my mouth, I promise you.

This thread doesn't have anything to do with Superdrol, though the reviews I've read have been largely positive.

When you said drol I assumed you meant superdrol....it is a common shortening people use.