CaVe MAn DiEt

[Mythicalbeing]

Has anyone tried this, all natural foods, with NO processed foods?
Nothing but meat, fresh fish, chicken...

WHat else would be included? Fruits, vegies, AND?????

Any help.
Thanks
Myth

 

[mickeys]

whats the point? you'd be better off with processed carbs like oatmeal, etc

 

[Mythicalbeing]

That's what I want to stay away from....I want protiens, and carbs from natural foods if at all possible...I want to see if this makes a diffrence in the long run as far a gaining fat during a bulk cycle...i.e staying away from protien drinks, pasta ect and see how my body does as far a muscle building.

I also want to see if the same diet, minus the calories during a cutting cycle will give you all the needed nutients, and substanance your body needs to maintain muscle while you diet.

That is my point.

 

[ohashi]

It's just eating clean and close to nature, bro.

 

[Socrates]

yes! i highly reccomend this for health, fitness, and disease prevention. most of the views on this board are for nieve short term cosmetic benfits.
protein-any lean animal souce is good, and try not to over do the canned stuff. use powders only pst worjout and maybe pre.
carbs-any fruits and veges. green veges should be the number one thing you consume next to protein. i am talking at LEAST a pound of greens a day and MUCH more if possible. pre workout go with fruits, i like bananas. post workout go with potatoes. beond pre and post leave out these carb sources! the other times are for greens protein and healthy essential fats.
fats-flax,olive,coconut, avocado, walnuts, egg yolk... as long as the protein source is low in fat you can suplement with all of these.
fluid-water
supplements- the point is to eat so well they are NEARLY unessecary.

 

[JKurz1]

steel cut oats arent processed.......10x as good too.........

 

[Mythicalbeing]

Thanks for the inputs, I've eaten clean last year or so, but can't stick with a macro calorie diet. Figured I'd opt out of the high sugar and carb food, BUT DAMN...I love bread...hate to see it go...LOL

 

[JKurz1]

you take it out of your and I'm about to add it in.....havent had it in at least a year.........bulking is on....clean bulk, but def. a bulk,....

 

[sconoscuito]

man food in america isnt even all that natural though if I'm not mistaken, you got chickens with no feathers, chickens the size of a fuckin cow

I dont care though foods food to me, just something I always hear from people.

 

[JKurz1]

huh?????????? At least we can eat the meat in America...........

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Wow, no one here is famaliar with this diet. The idea of the Caveman Diet (also called Paleolithic Eating) is the keep your insulin levels in check and to balance your omega 3 to omega 6 to saturated fat ratio to that closer to how our ancestors ate. Actually on this diet you are suppost to avoid grain-fed meat and try to get grass-fed beef (you can buy in online if no one locally sells it). Because our meats and alot of other foods are deficient in omega 3's, you'll have to add in additional omega 3's such as flax seed oil in order to do this diet at its written. 60-70% of your food by weight is suppost to be green veggies (meaning you can easily get over 2 ibs of them every day if you do the diet right)

Foods not allowed (this is due to the fact that during our evolution they were not available): anything processed, grains of any type, dairy (eggs are not dairy btw), potatoes, etc.

 

[variation]

While I think it's a good idea to eliminate much of the processed food, I still don't nescaserrily think it's the best idea to do 'cave man diet' just for the sake of eating like our so called ancestors did.

The good thing about time passing, is our understandings and knowledge accumulate. So certainly there are certain things we can use to our advantage in this day, for example.. dextrose, and isolated proteins, healthy oil extracts from different sources.

there's no sense in putting all this evolution to waste, just choose wisely from what has changed, and preferebly not from the disgraces that have become.

I mean, if you really wanted to do a caveman diet, you could also starve or go a few weeks with only a few hundred calories to simulate unlucky conditions in the 'caveman' times.

 

[Socrates]

yes you need to avoid grains-they are neo carbs, we have only ingested them for a short periond of time and are loaded with allergic properties. i would reserve them for post workout if you really need them.
however, potatoes are the best thing on this type of diet post workout, the problem is you have to cook them. cooking was not all as common for neolithic types. we have only cooked our food for a very small portion of our time on earth. most all food eaten raw, and meats. no its pretty much impossible to follow that.
-the potatoe recommendation is straight from loren cordains mouth-he is the author of the paleo diet book.

 

[Mythicalbeing]

While I want to try this diet....the last thing I wanted to do was start a debate, but that's not all bad either. BodyByFinaplix thank you for the omega and flaxseed oil advice, Socrates thank for the authors name of a book I can compair my thinking to.
I still feel that this needs some guidelines and some supplements, but I also feel that this type of eating, whatever name you put to it has some ground to stand on. I will take it upon myself to expierement...

 

[dzuljas]

you left out.....wolly manmouth

 

[BeachBuff]

Back in the 80's there was a caveman diet that was going around that was more paterned after our ancestors eating routine. In other words you ate the same thing for a few days and then moved on to something else and repeat. So, if they were hunting and got a deer, they might eat on it for a few days before they switched to elk or whatever.
I did this and it worked. I don't know how, but I remember that it worked.
Maybe you should eat unprocessed foods and range fed meets and eat the same meets and veggies or nuts, etc for 3 days, then switch...
Just a thought from my experience.

 

[borg4902]

Didnt cavemen live to be like 30?

 

[Synpax]

Cavemen did not endeavor to be musclemen.

 

[Socrates]

cavemen's lifespan was not baecause of his diet. caveman was most likely stronger then anyone on this board who is natural. he had to bust his balls all day and not sit at a computer and "chat." so if he wasnt constantly catabolic from being overworked he probualy would have been huge. some isolation lifts wouldnt have hurt aswell...

 

[JKurz1]

AND their diet sucked!

 

[BeachBuff]

They got more fresh meat than any of us get. Plus nuts, roots, berries.
Fresh meat...heeheehee, just got that.