Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below woops must have gone right threw that so ur sayin up the calories and do more cardio? Because everyone that i have heard says don't do cardio at all if your going for just strength and size because you will get much better results without it. If you have shorter rests and keep your bpm up i know that works your heart enough all by itself.
cardio & weights
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Guinness5.0
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Dude WTF are you asking? 
Your first post says you want to cut, now you're asking about bulking
Your first post says you want to cut, now you're asking about bulking 
swordfish151
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LOL...you can loose body fat and gain strength at the same time...i know..i did it while on the 5x5 (not on the program now)...basically if you want to loose bodyfat do the cardio on an empty stomach in the am, then lift in the PM...you say "i lift for 2 hours" like its the time that matters...its not how long your in the gym...but how you handle it in the gym that counts...your diet is the key to you getting leaner...while i was dieting...i was doing cardio ED for 45min in the am on an empty tank...doing the 5x5 (which was lifting 3x/wk) and on the days that i was no lifting..i did an extra cardio session in the PM...believe it or not..i still gained on the squat...alot thought that all that cardio would not help...but i just blasted through...came down leaner and dropped a considerable amount of bodyfat....but you have to be DEDICATED as well...
swordfish151
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oh and all this while on 1800-2100 cals a day...it sucked..but it can be done..just make sure your protein intake is high...1.5g per lbs.
DZLS
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i feel if you are doing cardio, make sure to still train with the weights... you might want to do them at separate intervals though... cardio AM, train PM...
i wouldn't cut the calories without at least first trying to add the cardio in... if you are not seeing the results you want, then start to cut some calories...
i wouldn't cut the calories without at least first trying to add the cardio in... if you are not seeing the results you want, then start to cut some calories...
I dont want to bulk i want to loose fat while gaining muscle which i know it is possible because i have done it many times i just can't get below 10% bf. Back when i was about 14 i lost 65lbs. in 1 month and a half and now im 18 forgot to say that. I just couldent eat more than 300 calories a day and i got adicted to it and got down to 95lbs.,but i still dident loose the fat around my lower abs and love handles or pecs. Thats really all i need to loose besides that im probly at about 6% bf everywhere else. I would also think that working out for 2 hours would not be good as u are deplenishing your body however i usually work out for 2 hours, but i also take 3-5 min breaks between sets to get my strength back to 95%. I would think the shake would help alot. I used to run and do cardio am and lift pm, but i got a new job workin from 2:30 tell 10:30 so its gona be hard to do that unlease i go to a new gym or somethin. When i started back in the gym i decided to eat healthy and i would only eat 2000 cal. and i dident realize how much food it was if its chicken and oatmeal and things like that and i dropped about 5lbs. of fat and put on about 5lbs. of muscle maybe more the first month. My mom then refused to buy food for just me and started buying pizza and stuff so i ended up putting back on the fat. Im also currently doing cardio 3x a week for 45 min.
putrefied_dead
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vin01 said:
after around 45 mins for most, the cortisol levels start to increase more rapidly. some ppl can push that envelope to around 1hr. but by and large anything more then that and cortisol is high enough to start to have a regressive effect. for those that say that they work out for 2 hrs, i'd like to ask them whether they believe that they were truly going balls to the wall or whether the intensity started to drop?
