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guys im gunna start doing cardio.

ill start doing it on my 3 off days during the week, but then i think im going to up it to a little bit after lifting too.

im getting a little chunky, but the main reason i feel i need to do it is because my lfits are suffering (squats mainly) because im just in shitty cardio shape after almost a year of no running.

i typed in some google research and here are some of what iv found.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1608/is_7_21/ai_n14933669

http://www.turbulencetraining.info/cardio-weight-loss-mythbuster.html

both of these articles mention its a myth, and that its bullshit, and therefore a myth of bullshit. the 2nd one states to get in and out in under an hour, meaning if i get my weights done in under an hour then do 15 min of cardio thus exceeding that hour, iv fucked myself.

should i just stick to cardio in the off days?

im so confused guys, what shal i do?


i read this, and i realized its too hard

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=517831
 
the personal trainer I used (twice, lol) and from what everyones else tells me they say do cardio after you do weights, I can't the day I do legs though.
 
ksharp01 said:
the personal trainer I used (twice, lol) and from what everyones else tells me they say do cardio after you do weights, I can't the day I do legs though.
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did he say why, or was he one of those skinny bitchass trainers who uses personality to attract customers but really knows jack shit about fitness?
 
in the end its about calories in and calories out. I would start out with 3 days for 45 min(if you can handle it, dont know your conditioning level) of cardio on your off days and then 2-3 weeks later up it to the current 3 days plus 1 or 2 after your weight training session for about 30 min.
 
did he say why, or was he one of those skinny bitchass trainers who uses personality to attract customers but really knows jack shit about fitness?
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From what I know is that during your weight training session you use up most of your carb storage, then you follow it with cardio after and you deplete your carbs and tap into you fat as fuel. Almost like the way atkins diet works without the cardio.
 
SublimeZM said:
did he say why, or was he one of those skinny bitchass trainers who uses personality to attract customers but really knows jack shit about fitness?
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he wasn't the only one that has told me that. I know I was told why but don't remember... sorry! But he is in very good shape, he is a trainer at my gym and I would use him more but his personality is a big 0!!! Damn I can't remember the reasoning but I remember when I heard it I told myself that it made sense. :whatever: sorry, I know, not being much help but that is what I am doing...weights, then cardio-except on leg days, oh and then abs everytime after cardio
 
the reasoning that some people do weights after cardio has to do w/ glycogen stores and just overall energy being saved for lifting instead of doing cardio first or whatever.

but really just do it whenver and dont worry bout it :)
 
seaking420 said:
From what I know is that during your weight training session you use up most of your carb storage, then you follow it with cardio after and you deplete your carbs and tap into you fat as fuel. Almost like the way atkins diet works without the cardio.
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This is what I was thinking.
 
SublimeZM said:
did he say why, or was he one of those skinny bitchass trainers who uses personality to attract customers but really knows jack shit about fitness?
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think about it...

seriously... think about it.
 
seaking420 said:
From what I know is that during your weight training session you use up most of your carb storage, then you follow it with cardio after and you deplete your carbs and tap into you fat as fuel. Almost like the way atkins diet works without the cardio.
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yes, but the links i just posted sayus thats bullshit.
 
The best results I've had have been from running intervals for 35 min on an empty stomach in the a.m. twice per week, and the recumbant bike after doing legs and back for 20 minutes or so at a higher level. I never figured out why or cared to figure it out, it just worked.
 
jnevin said:
The best results I've had have been from running intervals for 35 min on an empty stomach in the a.m. twice per week, and the recumbant bike after doing legs and back for 20 minutes or so at a higher level. I never figured out why or cared to figure it out, it just worked.
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nice shit this is the kinda stuff im looking for, thanks.

so u did it after legs and back, not after chest/shoulders ever?

ill give it a shit
 
Do your cardio in the morning, before you eat... on a completely empty stomach..

Do your resistance training later when you have energy from food.


If you do it in the morning on an empty stomach your body has no choice but to go directly to it's stored energy and burn it up...

Anything else is simply classless...
 
lol

I guess its from person to person. I would put in my 45min intense training with weights (and by that time my body was kicking into fat burning mode) then I'd roll over to cardio (which I opted to do HIIT... either bike or eliptical) I found my most bf loss with this combination.
 
SublimeZM said:
nice shit this is the kinda stuff im looking for, thanks.

so u did it after legs and back, not after chest/shoulders ever?

ill give it a shit
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No, I never do cardio before lifting. Sometimes I'll do maybe 5-10 minutes on a cross trainer, but I usually do a functional warm up with light weights and work on range of motion. I love the Freemotion machines for that stuff.

I do it after legs and back because I usually work those the hardest and feel like the cardio would just burn more calories after kicking my ass. This is just me though, and there are probably better ways to do it along with full explanations of why.
 
SublimeZM said:
so bascially what u all are telling me is to just not do any cardio?
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I don't think anyone is telling you that eh?

I personally would lift and then do cardio when your body has already started burning fat from the lifting... but that is my personal opinion and not everyone will share that with me.
 
You should be able to hit 10% BF without cardio at all unless you are prone to holding a lot of fat. Personally, I do 20 minutes of light cardio after weight training and it works great when cutting.
 
Do some HIIT on your off days. Get up in the mornings and due it before imbibing any carbs. Fuck that 45 minute steady state shit. Ever see a well-muscled marathoner?
 
JavaGuru said:
You should be able to hit 10% BF without cardio at all unless you are prone to holding a lot of fat. Personally, I do 20 minutes of light cardio after weight training and it works great when cutting.
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I agree! :heart:
 
JavaGuru said:
See. i must be right!
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really... yes you are. I didn't do cardio until the last week of my training before my comp. I resulted twords a clean diet and lifting and got there with that.
 
cardio first thing on empty stomach will be best for bodyfat loss, but you will be more at risk of losing muscle mass. in a fasted state your body will tap into both fat and muscle stores. it helps to have a small amount of carbs (around 10g) in you even for "empty stomach" cardio in order to get the liver going, the krebs cycle needs glucose to burn fat. it will also help to take a bcaa supplement pre cardio to help retain your swoleness. its important to remember to keep your heart rate around 65-70% of your maximum heart rate (MHR is 220 minus your age). this will also help w/ muscle retention.
same goes for postworkout cardio as far as burning muscle, catabolism is at its peak after you lift, and while it wont make or break you, you're just running more of a risk of losing lean mass.

if muscle retention is most important, you will want to do cardio after a preworkout meal. (lean protein and complex carb i.e. whey/oats)

what i like to do is do a few fairly high intensity cardio sessions after a pre workout meal for general health purposes, then focus on calorie restriction to lean out. this is what has worked for me, hope it helps.
 
doing cardio while have full glyco stores is doing nothing but wasting your time.
 
SublimeZM said:
so this means do it after i workout?
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OMFG or in the morning before you have any food in your system.

Cardio that burns 300 calories... burns 300 calories regardless... but it's preferable to do it when there aren't any blood sugars to burn so it has to go to your fat stores...

That's what slims you. Burning blood sugars simply allows you to consume more calories in a day..

If your negative kcal, you're negative kcal... all there is to it.
 
dude what's your schedule like? do you have the time to split days like weights only vs cardio only days? to avoid having to do both in one day? this would be ideal IMO.

personally, if youve had a quality lifting session, you really shouldnt have evergy left for some fucking cardio. if you can go do cardio for 45 mins or whatever the hell after intense lifting, then you aint been lifting very intensely

that said, time is often an issue and people will do what they have to do - I know I do. And i Have this way in the past. But if you have to do both, always lift first when you are fresh - then cardio.

Id tighten up the diet as a first step, especially at your young age, you really probably dont even need cardio to lean out your body.
 
Burning calories don't mean shit unless you are tapping into STORED FAT to convert it to fuel.

So do it first thing in the morning with nothing more than some coffee in you or wait until after working out when your HR is already elevated.
 
I always do my cardio after lifting. Just like most have said, you have used up your primary energy supply and are tapping into stored energy ie fat.
 
That is what I always do bro, cardio (45 mins) after weights, straight after, don't dilly dally.

The only reason why I can't do cardio first thing in the morning is because I won't get up at 4:00 am to do it, A nigga gotta sleep as well.

Then again, I cut my carbs intake at about 1:00 pm, so the moment I hit the cardio machine (about 10:00 PM) I have had a chance to use the carbs.

It works for me
 
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