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Capitolism at its WORST!

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Phumunda

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Is anybody else sick of all this capitalistic bullshit surrounding the Sept 11th tragedies? What I'm saying is there is no reason people should manufacture products that exploit this whole thing. It makes me sick! I mean seriously, do we need toilet paper with Bin Laden's picture on it? Is the advancement of the American public hinging on whether or not we have bumper stickers that say "Bin Hiding" and "Oh my God, I killed Binny" Seriously now...

I'm also sick of all the damn forwards I get with Bin Laden's face poorly placed on picture captioned by some oh-so whitty phrase that my 8 year old cousin could conjure up.

Don't misread me here, I have no problem with patriotism, or backing your government, supporting your troops and what-not, but really... do we need all this pointless crap? It's really an eye sore to me. Please tell me I'm not alone in this, and restore my faith in our society.

Phumunda
 
I agree that these new products are in poor taste, but i would never ask my government to pass any laws against it. If I don't like the product I can simply opt not to buy it!
 
people are always out to make a buck....
 
Weapon X said:
Seems to me that this is the BEST thing about Capitalism: if the product is bad, it will go away.
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Oh yeah...explain windows then! LOL!!!
 
True, Wepaon X... they probably all will fall by the way-side soon enough, but what about the e-mails...

Phumunda
 
all that crap is in bad taste the only one I saw was a shirt sold for the victims that donates half the money to the vistims of this tradgety, I hope all the other scammers get theirs but that's life
 
That is Capitalism at its BEST. If people don't like the product, they won't buy it. Capitalism is about what the public wants. Do you think Capitalism at its BEST would be the government intervening and pulling such products off the markets?

That wouldn't be Capitalism at its best... it wouldn't be Capitalism - PERIOD.

-Warik
 
Weapon X said:
Seems to me that this is the BEST thing about Capitalism: if the product is bad, it will go away.
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That's why many Fords are still on the roads.......along with many other unsafe products. Faulty assumption.
 
Warik said:
That is Capitalism at its BEST. If people don't like the product, they won't buy it. Capitalism is about what the public wants. Do you think Capitalism at its BEST would be the government intervening and pulling such products off the markets?

That wouldn't be Capitalism at its best... it wouldn't be Capitalism - PERIOD.

-Warik
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Another faulty assumption. "Tricked" or "Deceived" consumers buy products all the time because they have been scammed by predatorial sellers.

I suppose Warik wants to do away with all Government regulations relating to Truth in Lending, Safety regulations, or even SEC disclosures. If government doesn't regulate products, whether those products are loans, securities, or cars, then we would be living in a world as unsafe and misguided as Afghanistan is right now.

The government has the right to regulate capitalism and will rightfully continue to do so.

Ryan.
 
I did find it quite disgusting that a US flag that was selling for 25 dollars in now selling for 100 dollars after sept 11th. Oh well, supply and demand, right?
 
Capitalism with controls is NOT Capitalism. I'm not going to "take a side" on this thread, 'cause we all know how we feel, but WE LIVEI N A MIXED ECONOM, with small hints of Capitalism still in existence--but with several hints of Socialism upon us.

Be careful what you wish for, right...
 
RyanH said:
The government has the right to regulate capitalism and will rightfully continue to do so.
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There is no such thing as regulated Capitalism. If you take what we had, and you regulate it, you have what we have now - something that is not Capitalism.

Capitalism -
An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.

Where is the part about "oh, and the government can fuck around with it too."

Socialism -
Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

Ah! There it is!

-Warik
 
Test boy said:
No big deal in my book. Who is selling a $25 flag for $100?
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It is no big deal. If you don't want to pay $100 for a flag, don't do it. Jeez. I don't want to pay $100 for a flag, and guess what, I HAVEN'T!

-Warik
 
Warik said:


There is no such thing as regulated Capitalism. If you take what we had, and you regulate it, you have what we have now - something that is not Capitalism.

Capitalism -
An economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.

Where is the part about "oh, and the government can fuck around with it too."

Socialism -
Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.

Ah! There it is!

-Warik
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Well, maybe Webster's Dictionary has excluded a word---"regulated capitalism" since the government regulates the market all the time. Nothing is all black and white or either/or, so quit trying to make it that way to fit your silly argument, Warik.

Maybe you've been goofing off in Philosophy class a little too much. Participate in Philosophy---maybe you'll learn the art of that vast gray area where we all, mankind, really lives....
 
there is no such thing as bad capitalism. if you dont like it then dont buy it. if people like it they buy it. vote with your dollars. capitalism is perfect. now where can i get some of that osama bin laden toilet paper?
 
RyanH said:
Well, maybe Webster's Dictionary has excluded a word---"regulated capitalism" since the government regulates the market all the time. Nothing is all black and white or either/or, so quit trying to make it that way to fit your silly argument, Warik.
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Maybe your eyes excluded my whole post when you were allegedly reading it. Regulated Capitalism is not Capitalism because the aspect of regulation defeats the idea of Capitalism. It's oxymoronic. It's like calling Spock illogical. There's no such thing as an illogical Vulcan, because otherwise, he wouldn't be a Vulcan.

You might not watch Star Trek, so I'll think of an example that you can relate to. Try "correct Democrat"

RyanH said:
Maybe you've been goofing off in Philosophy class a little too much. Participate in Philosophy---maybe you'll learn the art of that vast gray area where we all, mankind, really lives....
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Maybe you've been failing to read my philosophy class posts a little too much. If you had been doing so, you would see that the whole driving force behind my displeasure is the fact that I AM participating.

Like I said, a correct Democrat. Watch the space-time continuum unravel.

-Warik
 
What gets me are the car dealers saying "you need to
support America, come on down and buy a car from us".

That's just BS, they're using a tragedy to try and
make a profit, nothing more.
 
That's just BS, they're using a tragedy to try and make a profit, nothing more.
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Thanx big... I think we finally got back to my point. I WAS NOT in any way complaining about the government or their regulations (or lack thereof) of the aforementioned tasteless products.

I WAS, however, complaining about these insensitive fucks out there who try to turn a damn dollar on this. It's really a great display of their: lack of compassion, lack of RESPECT for those whom we've lost, and their own petty greediness. Fucking pathetic assholes...

Maybe I miss-titled this thread... Heh.

Phumunda
 
RyanH said:


That's why many Fords are still on the roads.......along with many other unsafe products. Faulty assumption.
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Yea we all should drive Mercedes I agree..........ooops wait we all aren't living off rich parents and a trust fund. Typical arrogant elitist liberal.
 
I miss the days when it didn't feel like the government was on my back and looking over my shoulder. It is becoming increasingly difficult for guys who make their own rules. Rules are for people who can't make their own.
 
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