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[ThisCat]

I've done a few low end cycles in the past, I haven't done anything for around 3 years now, and looking to do another cycle, I'm sitting at 220lb at 16% and 5'11, Yes my BF is higher, winter months... (Canada) but my diet is good, just cardio lacks this time of the year.

So looking at everything now a days, and I feel like a newbie. and i'm sure someone will rip on me, but I'm look for a cycle to bulk and of course drop fat. I would love to end up at about 200-210lb. and 8-10%.

1-4 d-bol
1-12 week test enthate 500 mgs
8-14 winny,
with PROVIRON in there to help with sides etc...

or EQ in place of Test enthate..?


Post cycle, thoughts seem to be different, back in the day,,, I ran Nova after... I wish I had the time to look this stuff up like i use to, but life is too busy now.

So pull this cycle a part, tell me what you think, I have some good mass now, want to bump it up a bit, and harden up.
Thanks so much

 

[solidspine]

Don’t drop the test, add eq if you want but don’t drop the test


PCT

HCG
Clomid

 

[babbabuee]

keep the test

 

[ThisCat]

HCG, is that a "need" if i'm running proviron in there? clomid over nova now?

 

[aceofspades]

I agree with keeping the Test and you may also want to run the Winney a couple weeks sooner so it ends with the Test also. Nova should be fine for this cycle if you already have it.

 

[Ulter]

You should do very well with that. Keep the test, skip the nolva.

Use AIFM throughout the cycle and PCT. I don't think you NEED HCG for your PCT because it's only test, but it makes it go a lot smoother. Then use the clomid for a couple weeks and you'll do fine.

 

[ThisCat]

So.
1-4 30mg or 40mg d-bol
1-12 week test enthate 500 mgs
6-12 50mg winny,/day oral
13-14 40mg nova/day
14-16 20mg nova/day

with PROVIRON in there to help with sides etc
and milkthistle for the old liver.
anything else??

 

[aceofspades]

It looks good to me except you need to remember to wait 10 days after your last injection of Test E to start your PCT. I always like to run HCG at 250iu 2x per week during my longer cycles. AIFM as suggested above also would be a great addition.

 

[ThisCat]

Sounds good, thanks for your help.

Also, a buddy of mine is talking about doing a cycle.
1-6 dbol 40mg.
3-12 injection winny 50mg every other day,
ending with Nova....

thoughts?

 

[aceofspades]

Sounds good, thanks for your help.

Also, a buddy of mine is talking about doing a cycle.
1-6 dbol 40mg.
3-12 injection winny 50mg every other day,
ending with Nova....

thoughts?

My thought is that it is a bad cycle due to the fact no Test is being used in it.