Can you really lose fat and retain musclemass and strength without Steroids???

[The_Eviscerator]

Re: do it slow

i mean cut cals very slowly,,,,,like take a whole year to do it,,,...........i really dont think it can be done without alot of muscle loss,but to try it you have to do it very slow

He is right. To achieve what can be accomplished in a 12 week cycle may take a year to 2 years to achieve naturally. No wonder everyone is on roids.