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Can You Have Fun Without Getting Drunk or Stoned?

Puc said:
truthfully, I can, BUT

it can be a cathartic experience to "tweak" yourself with a chemical. It can help you let go of your own inhibitions and live in the moment... that is the same reason it gets people into trouble.

I am to insecure to completely enjoy a nightclub without a little something (notice I said LITTLE)

Solid admission puc. Good to hear people admitting their faults once in awhile instead of pretending as though they do not have any.

With regards to the post, yes, I certainly can have a good time, but I am pretty reserved in "real life" and am normally unimpressed with people acting fake and moronic so I dont enjoy the party scene....well wait..actually now that I think about it. I have not been to a party in better than 2 years, I have changed tremendously since then and perhaps I should go to one to see what it's like....ok to be honest I'd only go because there would be a lot of drunk girls there. =)

Vinygroover....many of us here are athletes....you however are a close-minded, open-mouthed cock gobbler.
 
Most people think I'm drunk when I am having a good time anyway...

B True
 
Frackal,

You obviously have a problem taking things in jest.

I'm close-minded hey. Here we have a thread flaming people who drink and i'm close-minded.

BTW, i've probably achieved more than you from an athletic point of view than you ever could in three lives.

Life is about balance Frackal. Sounds like yours is an unbalanced pile of boring shit.
 
Boring is subjective.

What makes you think I'm not speaking in jest as well? I rarely take any comments on here seriously...the main reason I flamed you was out of curiousity to see what you'd say.

Besides...there is truth behind almost every jest ... you like to rip on AAS users and turn around to lightly berate those who don't follow your ideals of chemical use....

And naked men's "2-in-the-sack-front2back" potato sack racing is not quite the athleticism I had in mind.
 
curling said:
I don't understand why some of my friends have to get so wasted. They act stupid and then usually get in fights with the SO and that ruins everybodies fun. I mean I am not saying I don't like to get buzzed every once in a while but I do not like to get plastered.

what really freaks me out is why would someone want to get stoned or drunk before they go wakeboarding, snowsking ect. I mean those sports are a rush without having to get a artificial one. And I don't care what anybody says you do them better straight then stoned or drunk.

I use to drink while I was boating but every since I started this cycle I haven't drank and I have noticed I have a had a better time. You don't screw up saying something you wished you wouldn't have, bang up the boat on a dock or feel like crap the next day.

I guess I am saying is try to enjoy life the way you were born with clear head you really can have fun w/o drugs. Just get high off life or what you are doing. Give it shot or do you need to be buzzed to have fun?


BRO I AGREE. I AM IN MY 40S. WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I USED TO BE A PRETTY BIG DRINKER. BUT I QUIT THAT. I DRINK ONLY ON OCCASION NOW, AND DON'T BINGE. AND I NOTICE THAT I TEND TO HAVE A LOT MORE FUN, AND COOLER EXPERIENCES.

BUT, FUN FOR ME HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN PART ME AGAINST NATURE. LIKE HUNTING, OR EVEN JUST STALKING GAME. OR HIKING, OR MOUNTAIN CLIMBING. STUFF LIKE THAT. AND YOU CAN'T DO THOSE THINGS AS WELL DRUNK OR HIGH NO MATTER WHAT ANYONE SAYS. ACTUALLY SPEED MIGHT HELP BUT I AM NOT SURE.
 
Frackal,

It's interesting that because i have the lifestyle that doesn't suit the stereotypical bodybuilding lifestyle, you immediately assume i have no athletic ability.

There seems to be the belief on here that unless someone shoots juice, works out, eats 6 meals a day and sleeps every other spare moment, that they're not committed to their bodybuilding.

I have never berated anyone for not following my 'ideas' as you call it on rec. drug use. You should know that since you do such a good job of reviewing people's posts. If someone asks a question about it, i'll answer them. I'll never defend drug use, 'casue i know it sucks.

The difference is Frackal, you'll hear plenty of rec users like me say its' shit, but why do you never hear a steroid user say what they're doing is shit.

For someone who doesn't like homosexuals, doesn't go out and flames drug and alcohol users you've got a pretty open mind, haven't you.
 
Commitment is subjective too.


We're not doing the steroid thing again. We don't feel it's 'shit' because it's merely a tool to be used in assistance to accomplish goals that the majority of us work very, very hard for. I flame drug users on the aas board who log on and say shit like "will heroin affect my gains" (yes someone has asked that) or other silly things.

I never stated anything close to you not having any athletic ability....I simply stated after your "oohh do you all live in utah or somethin" post, which implied that 'we' who don't go out and get fucked up or what not are religious conservatives or whatever.

And I merely pointed out to you that some of us dont go out and get drunk etc etc for athletic reasons.

What makes you think I dislike homosexuals? You're incorrect in that respect....

..Oh wait, because I made a 'gay' joke? Very PC of you Vinyl. Well that and your general attitude towards rec. drug use and steroids would categorize you (in my ohpinion) as a general brainwashed mainstream poopout.

But then I could be completely incorrect as well. Vinylgroover, the truth of it is, my judgements toward you mean precisely ZIP and vice-versa.

We simply have to different idealogies towards life. That is the truthful non-biased answer. I feel you are ignorant, uninteresting, hypocritical as well as several other negative adjectives and frankly I find you ridiculous.

You find me perhaps arrogant, self-righteous, judgemental, hypocritical and exceedingly sexy judging by your PM.

I admit I am all these things at times as are everyone else. Comes with the territory of being human I suppose. However I do stand by my convictions when I say that AAS usage and recreational drug usage are 2 very seperate entities ... and if you feel AAS IS a rec drug than I would be interested to hear your justification for that other than the fact that your govt. told you so.
 
sexy....that's stretching it a bit.

Of course they are separate entities. Rec drugs are fucked, but those steroid users who similarly bury their heads in the sand to the long term side-effects are equally as ignorant. That's all i'm saying.

One thing though that is common among all drug users, be it steroids or rec. drugs and that is the reasons for taking them are the same and that is to compensate for perceived inadequacies or deficiencie's in one's life, whether social, physical, emotional etc.

I'm not saying you or i fit into this, because i am strong of mind and you sound the same, but most do be it steroids or rec.
 
I've never been drunk. I've never been high. I don't have to be either one of those to have fun at a party or just going out.
 
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