Can you get super big and strong without the juice?!?

[ZZuluZ]

1-Dawg I don't feel qualified to dish out advice on contest preparation or on form. However I do feel qualified to speak about exercises, supplementation, the neural system and other aspects essential to powerlifting. I can't offer anything to experts like PLJay and Brian, but I feel sometimes I offer a contribution to the beginning lifters here.


But I guess I was wrong.

-Zulu

 

[1-dawg]

A beginning lifter and a beginning powerlifter are very different. Since you have trained for awhile you surely can help a new lifter, but a new powerlifter -- probably not. Most powerlifters have already been lifting for quite awhile, they then figure out they like lifting so they give powerlifting a shot, if they like it, they stick at it. See the difference?? A competetive powerlifter trains different, usaully has a strong drive and is full of himself. His wife hates him close to meets because he is trying to make weight and has to listen to him for teh next day if he lifts like shit or, even worse has to hear how great he is after he lifted awesome at a meet. Just a little humor input here as this internet shit can get a little too heated. A new powerlifter is much better suited to listen to an experienced powerlifter, not a lifter who has never entered a meet.

 

[Mjollnir]

You are veering off the topic

mjollnir -- you train to beat your own records btu who judges them.

If I lifted more weight in the same movement as I did last time, I have beaten my record. This isn't rocket science.

How do you know that they were done in teh same manner as the last time you did them.

Again: this isn't rocket science. Do you have trouble remembering if you did a lift in the 'same manner' as you did last time?

I can gaurantee you this -- if you entered a few powerlifting meets your lifts would take off like a rocket. Guys always seem to make a huge imporvement in their total AFTER they enter a meet.

Perhaps, but I cannot afford the potential of injury competing in meets where the standard is 1RM. For now, I'll stick with what has worked for me thus far.

I don't know who you are trying to impress around here but giving answers that sound like they come out of a textbook is ridiculous.

I'm not trying to impress anyone. I am simply offering my own experience; something that makes you uncomfortable enough to mischaracterize what I post. Pity.

I would like to hear you THEORY on meet strategy for a lifter going into his 1st nationals, or a lifter going into his 1st meet. How would you handle someone you coached when they bombed, or hwo would you handle them in the meet after they bombed?? You have no idea what type of mindset it requires to be on the platform. I have competed in many different sports, and powerlifting is much different than all the others.

How is that in any way pertinent to what I posted? The original query was if one could get stronger without resorting to steroids. I have stuck to it, you seem to wish to interject things into this thread that don't have anything to do with it.

Again: I don't compete in strength events. I don't use steroids. I know how to get stronger, safely. You seem to have a problem with that.

Tough.

 

[b fold the truth]

This is one of the dumbest discussions I have ever read. If anyone believes that "gear" is not part of every sport...then grow up. I do not condone it in any manner to anyone...but it is a part of being top of the class in sports.

How many of the top powerlifters do you think are clean? Wait wait...is this a powerlifting forum? Sorry, maybe I was wrong.

Can you get bigger and stronger naturally...most definately. Will AAS help...most definately. Do YOU need them? Probably not. I am not super strong in my powerlifts nor my strongman lifts. I'll probably never be a pro either...but what does it matter to me? When the time comes that I decide if I will be a pro or just an amateur having fun...I'll also make that decision about gear.

Till you are willing to sacrifice what you want for your dream...just don't worry with it. Don't worry about other people's business either...no reason to put anyone down at all...for any reason.

B True