Can This 45 Day OTC PCT do it or SERMS needed!!!!

[249fwrep62]

Okay cycle is pretty much a done deal it wont be started till i feel the body is ready but i find it more important to have a really good PCT and diet. I have read alot on SERMS and i have come to a conclusion that i will try to avoid them as much as I can if the right OTC producs can do it. Due to HCGenerate and Phytoserms always out I have come up with this your advice and comments will be greatly appreciated and taken into consideration.

45 day PCT

4 Bottles of Bridge
2 Bottles of Post Cycle
2 Bottles of Unleashes

-Day after last shot star bridge to start the axis stimulation taking it twice a day for 45 days

-Two weeks after Last shot and stopping anastrazole or Formastanzol start Post cycle supplement and unleashed to reduce estrogen natural and detox the body from chemicals and use ones available testosterone as efficiently as possible.

Would this be enough to keep gains and make a successful recovery. thank you for your time and hope to have great feedback and honest criticism thank you 249fwrep62

 

[HAYEZ]

knowing that nolvadex and clomid are both fine for pct..why would you not include them and add the otc products on top? if you have a way to attack pct at 4 different angles why would you do 3 and leave out a product that is tried and true? that makes no sense..

45 day pct may be overkill..typically its 21-28 days long

 

[Nelson Montana]

The problem is, some people have problems with clomid and nolva. Nolva dos nothing to restore HPTA, it's strictly for gyno.

I'd add some HCG a week after your last shot to give your HPTA a boost, then start using the UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE.

SARMS can be used at the beginning or end of the cycle or as a mid term mini cycle, but you will not recover while on it, so it's best to save it for when it'll do the most good.

HCGen is best to take while ON cycle.

Have some adex on hand in case you get high estro symptoms.

After PCT, start BRIDGE and use it till your next cycle.

 

[aj13]

I recovered fine while using S4 within 2.5 months of final shot (was using long life CYP so didnt start pct til 3 weeks after)

 

[249fwrep62]

Thanks for the replies it just seems that in the forum people really praise using OTC I don't know if its due to them selling but it seems they get really good reviews. There are just a lot of views on the subject on how to recover an well after reading extensively I had decided the above but that's why I posted so I could have veteran advice on the subject as this would be my first time. Im planning in using Hcg during cycle as to soften the recovery. The cycle would include Masterone so I don't know if an anti estrogen would be needed to take down bloat but it will sure be on hand. I was also thinking of 10mg of D-bol in the morning for PCT and some clen as it is said it prevents from going into a catabolic state Your replies are very much appreciated and Im hoping i can gain more knowledge and finish my planning.

 

[stevesmi]

what cycle are you running? all i see is masteron mentioned.

you run something like test, deca or tren then you need a hardcore PCT. natty supps are not enough.

you run a short oral cycle under 4 weeks then natty will work fine.

 

[249fwrep62]

Cycle that is going to be done

Gear
2 bottles GP Testosterone Enanthate
2 Bottles GP Masterone Enanthate
4 Bags GP T-Bol

Every 4th day

1ml Test 250
1ml Masterone 200

for about 375mg of test a week 300mg of masterone a week. Starting cycle 60mg of T-Bol till i finish the pills which is about 5 1/2 weeks. Looking for about 10-15 lbs of muscle in first cycle want to keep it steady in terms of uping my dosages as my body starts to grow in future cycles. want to make it as clean as possible ideal for me would be 190-200lbs lean.

 

[party_booye]

dude, as far as I'm concerned you've answered your own question.
In post 5, line 1.

Stick with what's been tried and tested over the years from all over the world.

 

[Nelson Montana]

dude, as far as I'm concerned you've answered your own question.
In post 5, line 1.

Stick with what's been tried and tested over the years from all over the world.

You mean what's been used by thousands of guys who wound up on HRT?

 

[249fwrep62]

Nelson would you advice in just adding clomid or both nolvadex and clomid to the OTC supplements mentioned above. what do you use as PCT