Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below It wasnt a first cycle and since then ive done bigger ones with 150mg of home made fina ED... Trust me its legit I get it myself and give it to many pf my friends who I train while theya re on cycle and all of them make huge progress following the training and diet I put them on. Right not I'm following a modified DC protocolfor training and diet
Can people with bad genetics compete??
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EvilMonkey
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u are what u eat
I actually know quite a bit about nutrition, could you list out what you typically eat in a day?
I actually know quite a bit about nutrition, could you list out what you typically eat in a day?
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Dude you are like 10,000 other people in this world. What you have is poor receptor infinity. Basicaly you will gain the same amount of mass if doing 1000mg of test a week or 200mg. I know many guys who have over came this battle. Basic exercises and caloric overload. Also Friends of mine who compete and have this problem which you have tell me that when they stop gaining weight they go on a low carb diet for a month or two. Then they bulk back up using anadrol, test, and gh. But they use small doses.
Good luck E
Good luck E
I did notice that after dieting I bounced back very well. I went from 214 boardering on fat down to 202 shredded up nice not bounced back to 217-218 more slod than I was at 214..
A typical day now is...
9am:
-egg white omlet with ham and side of scrambled whole eggs (I do not know the exact amounts it is not home made but in a buffet as most of my food is so it is estimate but fills a plate well and is probably a total of 8-9 eggs worth)
-small bowl of whole grain or brown rice ceral with 12oz skim milk
12pm:
-tuna on wheat bread
-12oz skim milk
-Large place rotisery chicken, white only no skin (hard to get down its alot of meat)
-1 desert cheat here; either frozen yogurt or large oatmeal cookie
2 or 3pm:
-70 gram protein shake with 1 cup oats
post workout:
-100 gram protein 50 gram dextrose
7-730pm:
-large place rotisery chicken
-salad with ceasar dressing
10pm:
70 gram protein 28 gram olive oil or 2-3 serving peanuts with it
12-1am:
can of tuna with 1 serving no fat low sodium cottage cheese...
My days change but this is how I try to eat and besides maybee missing a shake sometimes or replacing a shake with cottage cheese or eating more peanuts than planned
A typical day now is...
9am:
-egg white omlet with ham and side of scrambled whole eggs (I do not know the exact amounts it is not home made but in a buffet as most of my food is so it is estimate but fills a plate well and is probably a total of 8-9 eggs worth)
-small bowl of whole grain or brown rice ceral with 12oz skim milk
12pm:
-tuna on wheat bread
-12oz skim milk
-Large place rotisery chicken, white only no skin (hard to get down its alot of meat)
-1 desert cheat here; either frozen yogurt or large oatmeal cookie
2 or 3pm:
-70 gram protein shake with 1 cup oats
post workout:
-100 gram protein 50 gram dextrose
7-730pm:
-large place rotisery chicken
-salad with ceasar dressing
10pm:
70 gram protein 28 gram olive oil or 2-3 serving peanuts with it
12-1am:
can of tuna with 1 serving no fat low sodium cottage cheese...
My days change but this is how I try to eat and besides maybee missing a shake sometimes or replacing a shake with cottage cheese or eating more peanuts than planned
elite hot topic
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dude that is your problem you are planning your diet and talking about cottage cheese and peanuts!! I am not trying to be an asshole...
Let discuss the following:
1) your age and weight.
I am going to assume you are under 40 years of age. You say that you train like an animal right?? Well If that is true and you want to gain mass then you must stop counting every little thing you eat which includes how much olive oil and peanuts you eat.lol
At your age you are prob burning damn near every calorie you consume.
Pluss you weight and height is not considered small. As stated above If you are a larger guy pluss high training and young you need the calories.
2)Training style
Try cutting down to 4 days a week in the gym..
All basic movements Squats, bench, deads, close grip bench, and olympic bar curls.
Good luck E
Let discuss the following:
1) your age and weight.
I am going to assume you are under 40 years of age. You say that you train like an animal right?? Well If that is true and you want to gain mass then you must stop counting every little thing you eat which includes how much olive oil and peanuts you eat.lol
At your age you are prob burning damn near every calorie you consume.
Pluss you weight and height is not considered small. As stated above If you are a larger guy pluss high training and young you need the calories.
2)Training style
Try cutting down to 4 days a week in the gym..
All basic movements Squats, bench, deads, close grip bench, and olympic bar curls.
Good luck E
I train with a modified DC training... modified because I like the very short workouts since the intensity RUINED my nervous nsystem so I do..
Chest/shoulders/tri - One set each, chest sometimes getting one set of flys extra... All DC style with increasing wieghts every workout
back and bi- Back width and thickness, width is some kind of chin or pullup and thickness is rack deads, dead, or bent over rows
off
Legs- basic heavy DC style usually adding one set per muscle
repeat chest/shoulder/tri
off
ect...
I'm young but I do not have the best metabolism... to cut off 12 pounds in 8 weeks I had to diet my ass off eating only one solid meal a day with no carb and perfect macronutient ratios...
I get your point and I may need to throw away the idea of staying in shape to get big but I am FAR from cut and FAR from low calorie here... I think thats a clean diet but very high calories for someone whos had wieght issues most of their life...
on a side note I was tested as semilow thyroid one time, the doctor said I was on the low side of normal and when i added t3 I felt amazing, more energy and strength and mood increase...
This winter I plan on bulking big time but want to keep it clean at 400-500 grams protein and 4000-5000 calories with insulin and t3 in hopes oif hitting a solid 240 or softer 250...
Sorry for the long post or arguing type tone... I want to learn so i post all my ideas and reasons so you guys can review them and coach me to refine them.
Chest/shoulders/tri - One set each, chest sometimes getting one set of flys extra... All DC style with increasing wieghts every workout
back and bi- Back width and thickness, width is some kind of chin or pullup and thickness is rack deads, dead, or bent over rows
off
Legs- basic heavy DC style usually adding one set per muscle
repeat chest/shoulder/tri
off
ect...
I'm young but I do not have the best metabolism... to cut off 12 pounds in 8 weeks I had to diet my ass off eating only one solid meal a day with no carb and perfect macronutient ratios...
I get your point and I may need to throw away the idea of staying in shape to get big but I am FAR from cut and FAR from low calorie here... I think thats a clean diet but very high calories for someone whos had wieght issues most of their life...
on a side note I was tested as semilow thyroid one time, the doctor said I was on the low side of normal and when i added t3 I felt amazing, more energy and strength and mood increase...
This winter I plan on bulking big time but want to keep it clean at 400-500 grams protein and 4000-5000 calories with insulin and t3 in hopes oif hitting a solid 240 or softer 250...
Sorry for the long post or arguing type tone... I want to learn so i post all my ideas and reasons so you guys can review them and coach me to refine them.
EvilMonkey
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So you are taking roughly about 270-300grams of protein and about 80-100grams of fat and perhaps 3500 calories (not too sure). For the gains you want you'll want to add at least 1000 more calories or more and another 100g of protein. One thing else I have noted was that you take in a lot of food, but not a lot of nutrients. You could use more vegies and more fiber, if you hate them I would suggest throwing in something like Beyond Greens : http://www.udoerasmus.com/products/greens.htm into your protein shakes. An once of peanuts give you about 14.5 grams of fat, 7 grams of protein, and about 166 calories I'd suggest dropping them, you don't get much protein but a lot of fat. I really think you need more nutrients, this could be throwing your body out of balance and causing you not to gain. Just my two cents...
