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Calling All Gurus-critique Cycle

nuthnbutfords

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Calling All Gurus-Ulter...Satch...Makav...Indy...thoughts please

Hey bros...tell me what you think. The idea behind the cycle is to use highly androgenic drugs first...to suppress SHBG and cortisol as much as possible, and then come in at the second half of the cycle and change the environment to a highly anabolic one..and get out while the SHBG has a chance to catch up (or bind up)! Also..the idea isn't to bulk up, just walk away with some quality muscle. Diet will be in check throughout.

Drug.................Weeks................Dosage
Sust...................1-12................300mg eod
Dbol....................1-5.................40mg ed
EQ......................3-9.................600mg week
Winny.................6-12................125mg eod
Aromasin
Dyazide (too control bloat, keep blood pressure down)

PCT
HCG...................11-15
Proviron..............10-15
Clomid.................11-15

I don't know if I should take Proviron all the way throughout cycle?
 
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run the eq all the way. dont use proviron in pct... im no guru so u dont have to listen to me :)
ya run the proviron during the cycle
 
Well your chart looks good ;)

First thing is this.. The EQ won't even kick in until about the time you quit taking it. Second thing is you will be on 12 weeks of 17aa gear, and last but not least, the Winny taken EOD is worthless. I am assuming you are planning on injecting it (WHich is still 17aa), and if so the half life is less than a day.. Therefore you need to inject it once a day. If you are taking it orally the half life is less than 1/2 a day, and in that case you need to take it twice a day.

I would ditch the D-Bol and do the following:

week 1-12 Sust 1cc EOD
Week 1-14 EQ 600mg/week
Week 9-14 Winny 50mg ED (Orally) (25mg twice a day)

Run HCG at 7-9 and 12-14 at 500iu's M-W-F

Start clomid/nolva PCT the following week after your last EQ injection.
 
black sheep said:
Well your chart looks good ;)

First thing is this.. The EQ won't even kick in until about the time you quit taking it. Second thing is you will be on 12 weeks of 17aa gear, and last but not least, the Winny taken EOD is worthless. I am assuming you are planning on injecting it (WHich is still 17aa), and if so the half life is less than a day.. Therefore you need to inject it once a day. If you are taking it orally the half life is less than 1/2 a day, and in that case you need to take it twice a day.

I would ditch the D-Bol and do the following:

week 1-12 Sust 1cc EOD
Week 1-14 EQ 600mg/week
Week 9-14 Winny 50mg ED (Orally) (25mg twice a day)

Run HCG at 7-9 and 12-14 at 500iu's M-W-F

Start clomid/nolva PCT the following week after your last EQ injection.

Thanks for the reply. The injectable does miss the "first pass" of the liver..but the liver still breaks it down. Maye I should run the dbol weeks 1-4...and give my liver a break..and run the winny weeks 8-14....and inject it everyday..rather than eod.
 
nuthnbutfords said:
Thanks for the reply. The injectable does miss the "first pass" of the liver..but the liver still breaks it down. Maye I should run the dbol weeks 1-4...and give my liver a break..and run the winny weeks 8-14....and inject it everyday..rather than eod.

Winstrol is still 17AA, whether you inject it or take it orally. The liver stress is the same.
 
black sheep said:
Well your chart looks good ;)

First thing is this.. The EQ won't even kick in until about the time you quit taking it. Second thing is you will be on 12 weeks of 17aa gear, and last but not least, the Winny taken EOD is worthless. I am assuming you are planning on injecting it (WHich is still 17aa), and if so the half life is less than a day.. Therefore you need to inject it once a day. If you are taking it orally the half life is less than 1/2 a day, and in that case you need to take it twice a day.

I would ditch the D-Bol and do the following:

week 1-12 Sust 1cc EOD
Week 1-14 EQ 600mg/week
Week 9-14 Winny 50mg ED (Orally) (25mg twice a day)

Run HCG at 7-9 and 12-14 at 500iu's M-W-F

Start clomid/nolva PCT the following week after your last EQ injection.


ME LIKE! Sweet and simple! K to Ya Bro!
 
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