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Bye bye Finaplix!

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Mh48500

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Popped on to get some Finaplix carts and they appear to pretty much be gone. Has the same thing hapeened that occurred with Synovex?
 
NOOOOOO I read this and rushed over to my vet source and their no longer selling them! Damn you DEA, now I'm going to have to find a damn china source for powder. This sucks!


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
semper03 said:
NOOOOOO I read this and rushed over to my vet source and their no longer selling them! Damn you DEA, now I'm going to have to find a damn china source for powder. This sucks!

Yes that does bite. I loved my tren converted from Fina!!!!

I put an order in for some powder, hope it is decent. I am still curious on my test prop powder. I did blood work today and will post up on Tuesday, I guess that will tell the quality of the powder. I know it is test, but wondered about the quality.
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Mh48500 said:
semper03 said:
NOOOOOO I read this and rushed over to my vet source and their no longer selling them! Damn you DEA, now I'm going to have to find a damn china source for powder. This sucks!

Yes that does bite. I loved my tren converted from Fina!!!!

I put an order in for some powder, hope it is decent. I am still curious on my test prop powder. I did blood work today and will post up on Tuesday, I guess that will tell the quality of the powder. I know it is test, but wondered about the quality.
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My main thing like everyone else is scams, customs and quality. I know of a powder source that is legit but I've heard good and bad things. I was bummed when synovex went but damn I didn't think they would get fina.


Hunter Of Gunmen
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semper03 said:
Mh48500 said:
My main thing like everyone else is scams, customs and quality. I know of a powder source that is legit but I've heard good and bad things. I was bummed when synovex went but damn I didn't think they would get fina.


Ive been ok with not getting scammed, customs in Mexico has been no problem....but quality? Ive done a ton of serarches about quality of powder and pretty much come up empty. I have read you can get underdosed powder in the form of a higher ester weight, but I am not sure of thst is true, or accurate.

I dosed my prop at 150 and am considering it at 100. I found this table and dont know if it is accurate but will judge my brew accordingly.

UGL test
250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl
500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl
750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

According to an official clinical application :

Human grade
25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl
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Mh48500 said:
semper03 said:
Mh48500 said:
My main thing like everyone else is scams, customs and quality. I know of a powder source that is legit but I've heard good and bad things. I was bummed when synovex went but damn I didn't think they would get fina.


Ive been ok with not getting scammed, customs in Mexico has been no problem....but quality? Ive done a ton of serarches about quality of powder and pretty much come up empty. I have read you can get underdosed powder in the form of a higher ester weight, but I am not sure of thst is true, or accurate.

I dosed my prop at 150 and am considering it at 100. I found this table and dont know if it is accurate but will judge my brew accordingly.

UGL test
250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl
500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl
750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

According to an official clinical application :

Human grade
25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl
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When I order gear it goes through customs in NY and sits there for a few days. My first order came from the UK and they said it ships discrete. BULLSHIT LOL. It came in a small 3x3 bubble wrap package and you could totally tell what was in it lol I dont know how it made it through.


Hunter Of Gunmen
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semper03 said:
Mh48500 said:
semper03 said:
When I order gear it goes through customs in NY and sits there for a few days. My first order came from the UK and they said it ships discrete. BULLSHIT LOL. It came in a small 3x3 bubble wrap package and you could totally tell what was in it lol I dont know how it made it through.

Too funny!

I was also told my test powder would be shipped in a small container labeled as creatine, packaged like a protein powder or something..it wasnt. It came in a bag, with Chinese writing all over it, and the customs declaration said "natural cosmetic powder" WTF is that???

It was even opened by customs, the box not the sealed envelope, but it made it.
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Blissfam10 said:
Can anyone shed some light on why this is happening and was there some kind of law passed about it.
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I have no idea, maybe someone else can help. I am guessing the govt just caught on...too many peopl without cattle buying pellets???

Either way it sucks!

You think there would be bigger problems to worry about.
 
Blissfam10 said:
Can anyone shed some light on why this is happening and was there some kind of law passed about it.
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Because its used to make a controlled drug substance. That's why synovex went away and now they're hitting us with fina. They've been talking about bannin it since 06 and are just now doing it. I never thought it would actually happen but it did.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
sony190 said:
Prefer powder from good source over pellets anyday anyways
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I agree quality powder over pellets.


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Mh48500 said:
goin on 4T said:
I agree quality powder over pellets.


Me too, but as we all know the quality powder sources became source...so pellets were a great option.

Just part of the evolution I guess. We are persistent types in this game so we will find a solution!
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Oh don't worry I am sure some fools are going to create a fake pellet market and rape the world of a few $100k...
JMO
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Blissfam10 said:
Are they still manufactured and just not open to the public anymore?
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Good question. Compnenet E-H was recently still available but with a vet scrip in the US.

And actually where I used to get my Finaplix(big online retailer that sells the kindle) still showed them available in 10 dose carts but the price was quadrupled.

The manufacturer of Component E-H(the same as Synovex) launched a website here in Mexico but they do not respond to emails or answer the phone. I had some hope there.

WHich basically leaves us to powder.

But Goin on 4T gave me the great idea of launching a new business....LOL just kidding!
 
Blissfam10 said:
Are they still manufactured and just not open to the public anymore?
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This stuff was mass produced for the vet business but since it can be converted they started cracking down on sales. I'm pretty sure they stopped selling all together like synovex but they still have it stockpiled. Where I get mine from it says "manufacturer back order" on both fina and syno.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
So I just checked my local vet for fina pellets and they got some but the fucker raised the price from $45 per Cart to $98 per cart!!!


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
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Bullshit!
Pretty soon we'll be bathing in DMSO and sneaking into the neighbor's barn and rubbing up against the cattle lol.

Edit: I already do this but minus the DMSO. I just think it's fun.

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FL3X MAGNUM said:
Bullshit!
Pretty soon we'll be bathing in DMSO and sneaking into the neighbor's barn and rubbing up against the cattle lol.

Edit: I already do this but minus the DMSO. I just think it's fun.

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Hahaha desperate times call for desperate measures!


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
I got an email today from a fina kit supplier and they have a kit now that will take out the estrogen out of Revalor. Has anyone tried this?


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Oh fuck no no no NO I just finish my last 60ml Ed Finaplix aaa that sound Like cow shit dam cows they have still some of it in them ....
powder ahhh its good but finaplix was Gold gear best gains no dub ,,
 
Damn! i just tried to order and saw this thread after no luck. wtf. ive never tried the powder route...yet. always home brewed or had connections. china, here i come lol
 
is there a equivalent that is as cost effective as fina was i went to order today and saw the price had tripled i have not heard anything good that is in the same price range as brewing fina at home . I dont know anything about getting powder from china so can i get a little help ?
 
augustaghost said:
is there a equivalent that is as cost effective as fina was i went to order today and saw the price had tripled i have not heard anything good that is in the same price range as brewing fina at home . I dont know anything about getting powder from china so can i get a little help ?
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I honestly don't think there is. I've checked for some and always get re routed back to finaplix pellets. When I make my tren I used them cause it was a cheap 20ml cycle versus the $*** 10ml from an UGL. The over seas powder is expensive too. It is why it is it guess.
 
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semper03 said:
I honestly don't think there is. I've checked for some and always get re routed back to finaplix pellets. When I make my tren I used them cause it was a cheap 20ml cycle versus the $*** 10ml from an UGL. The over seas powder is expensive too. It is why it is it guess.
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Yeah Fina was pretty cheap, plus had the added benefit of you knowing what you were getting. Ive had a few UG labs Tren that was a joke, with Fina it was always a sure thing.
 
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Mh48500 said:
Yeah Fina was pretty cheap, plus had the added benefit of you knowing what you were getting. Ive had a few UG labs Tren that was a joke, with Fina it was always a sure thing.
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No way? I thought the powders were 1/3 of the cost of the pellets?
 
goin on 4T said:
No way? I thought the powders were 1/3 of the cost of the pellets?
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I would say 1/2 the price if your buying 100 grams or less. At the kilo price it gets a bit more cheaper. I have seen some guys quote some VERY low prices on tren ace, I am not sure if they got a better supplier or what but it seemed way to low.

Now what I dont get is the tren hex price...its like 4-5 times more expensive than tren ace(base powder) but most UGs are no that much more expensive on their price.

Thats why I dont understand underdosing from labs, especially on things like test which is SO cheap per gram. How much can you really save underdosing vs alienating the customer?
 
My last quote I got for tren ace powder was $*** for 25G. Test prop was $**. Tren is always higher no matter where you go and for good reason, IT'S THE BEST!
 
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Yep but it's worth it! I love tren e mast e and test e combo! It's amazing without having to do daily or eod shots
 
Mh48500 said:
Now what I dont get is the tren hex price...its like 4-5 times more expensive than tren ace(base powder) but most UGs are no that much more expensive on their price.

Thats why I dont understand underdosing from labs, especially on things like test which is SO cheap per gram. How much can you really save underdosing vs alienating the customer?
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Do you mean trenbolone hexahydrobenzylcarbonate?
Yeah that shit is crazy.

They r just cheap ass bastards.


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Mh48500 said:
I dosed my prop at 150 and am considering it at 100. I found this table and dont know if it is accurate but will judge my brew accordingly.

UGL test
250mg of test a week- T level should be 1100-1600ng/dl
500mg of test a week- T level should be 1800-2500ng/dl
750mg of test a week- levels should be well into the 3000's

According to an official clinical application :

Human grade
25mg of test a week- T level was 253ng/dl
50mg of test a week- T level was 306ng/dl
125mg of test a week- T level was 542ng/dl
300mg of test a week- T level was 1,345ng/dl
600mg of test a week- lT level was 2,370 ng/dl
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What ester was used? When was the injection given and when was the blood drawn (how many days later)?

Keep in mind prop has a much shorter half-life than cyp. If those numbers were done with Test C, and the blood was drawn say, 8 days post injection, how will you conduct your test P experiments to come to similar conclusions?
 
ceo said:
What ester was used? When was the injection given and when was the blood drawn (how many days later)?

Keep in mind prop has a much shorter half-life than cyp. If those numbers were done with Test C, and the blood was drawn say, 8 days post injection, how will you conduct your test P experiments to come to similar conclusions?
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I am pretty sure that the test was doen with test cyp...I will have to look for the thread. Also I do not beleive there are guidelines for test prop...what would that be, blood drawn the following day of the last injection?

I am not sure...I agree the ester of the test would greatly influence the results.
 
Mh48500 said:
I am pretty sure that the test was doen with test cyp...I will have to look for the thread. Also I do not beleive there are guidelines for test prop...what would that be, blood drawn the following day of the last injection?

I am not sure...I agree the ester of the test would greatly influence the results.
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prop has an active life of about 3 days, so about a 1.5 day half life. If your test C was drawn on day 7 or 8, then I would draw test P as close to about 36 hours post injection as possible.

By the way, still waiting on you to answer my PM...
 
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ceo said:
prop has an active life of about 3 days, so about a 1.5 day half life. If your test C was drawn on day 7 or 8, then I would draw test P as close to about 36 hours post injection as possible.

By the way, still waiting on you to answer my PM...
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I sent the PM....

36 hours sounds good. I drew blood the morning after with test p and drew an astronimical number. Given I was assuming underdosed gear/powder and the dosage was high but still...it was too close to the pin for prop.
 
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as of September 24, 2012 there seems to be a couple of vet supply houses selling Finaplix via Amazon dot com, just go to Amazon and type in finaplix
 
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