I don't like to dose 1,4 by teaspoons, capfuls, etc. Use a syringe and measure out by the ML. A good starting dose is 2ml. All the other methods are way too vague for me. 1,4 is good, but I notice if I don't eat before taking it that I get the symptoms you mentioned. Real GHB doesn't give me the spins like 1,4 does, but the effects of real G don't last as long as 1,4...