Bumpy crash!!

[Uprising]

Hey there,

Just finished a sus/prop/tren/winny 6 week cycle. Thought wrongly that this would be fairly(but not so) light and easy to recover from. I used HCG 500iu twice a week 3 weeks until cessation of aas. I know now I should have run it right up until pct but we live and learn. Basically I'm on Nolva on the old skool 40/40/20/20 protocol. I have small teste shrinkage, a normal sex drive, feel drained, strength is down a little, just recovery really etc. I must have been frikkin bloated because I've lost 5lbs in a week lol!! The thing thats really getting me is the tiredness and general "flat" feeling that is lingering. I did a 16 weeker and I only had this feeling for a couple of days Ive now had it a week. Although everyone in my house is complaining of upset stomach, dizziness, fatigue etc so I could be a little ill. Another thing there is next to no post cycle acne that I got baaad last time which is a good sign I guess.

Anyway I'm just feeling a lil hairy at the minute and just wanted a little input from some more informed members on here as I thought pct with this would be a breeze and I'm a little concerned.

Another question is if I feel my balls are still a bit small and I need a bit of a push is it worth giving the boys a shock with HCG? If so at what dose etc?

I'm taking a couple of years off its really not worth it, I'm just going to try and maintain/ gain a little naturally from now! Bloodwork I will get done 8weeks after PCT is through. I hope to god I make a full and complete recovery I do want kids in the not too distant future. Surely though good sex drive is an indicator of level of suppression?

I want my boys and my motivation back!! I'm having to force food down because of no appetite and its hard enough trying to keep up momentum at work I'm really hauling my ass into the gym! I'm not expecting an amazing recovery but thought it would be easier than this.

Any advice, thoughts, opinions etc will be taken onboard and appreciated... please no flames I feel rough enough and am posting this for HELP.

Cheers,

Johnda

 

[Varga]

I feel for you bro, the ups and downs are a biatch
Tren is very supressive not to mention that you took a lot of gear for a 6 weeks course

What was the dosages you took?

 

[Uprising]

Omna (sus) 500mg/week
Prop 50mg/ed
Tren 37.5mg/ ed
Winstrol 50mg/ ed

I definately underestimated the cycle. Results were amazing and although its not been long (just over a week into pct) im holding onto gains, still having good workouts, great pumps etc. I'm just worried about the HTPA effects/ recovery coz my balls are still slightly shrunk and the way I feel.

I'm just keeping up training/ diet and sucking it up until I feel better. Like I said above the burnout could be due to a bug. I'm just debating over a couple of HCG shocks if theres no markable improvement shortly, whats the line of thought on this guys? I know its debatable.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

Read This:


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/post-steroid-cycle-therapy/post-cycle-therapy-376177.html

I'm not going to bash you too hard but, you should have read this first and done more homework. This will help you get back to normal.

 

[splperformance]

go read the stickies...there are some great 2008 PCT protocols in there that might peak your interest!!!

 

[Varga]

Omna (sus) 500mg/week
Prop 50mg/ed
Tren 37.5mg/ ed
Winstrol 50mg/ ed

I definately underestimated the cycle. Results were amazing and although its not been long (just over a week into pct) im holding onto gains, still having good workouts, great pumps etc. I'm just worried about the HTPA effects/ recovery coz my balls are still slightly shrunk and the way I feel.

I'm just keeping up training/ diet and sucking it up until I feel better. Like I said above the burnout could be due to a bug. I'm just debating over a couple of HCG shocks if theres no markable improvement shortly, whats the line of thought on this guys? I know its debatable.

Yea bro that mix is good and prob if it was me I would have dropped the sust and increased the prop...but that's me.
If your balls are shrunk I would get them back to size then take it from there. You should recover but it might take a month or so
Keep us posted

 

[eddymerckx]

a week ?--the feeling is from the nolavadex and high estrogen. you still have a crapload of test in your system. you need an anti e to feel better.

 

[Uprising]

A week and a half into pct? Starting 2 weeks after last Sus, and 4 days after last prop.... doubt theres much test in my system bro.

I've read through the stickies thanks for the replies much appreciated... feeling a little better today.